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by BRed
Fri Jul 28, 2023 3:42 am
Forum: Forza Technical Help
Topic: Variator weights
Replies: 18
Views: 6077

Re: Variator weights

A follow up question on new Xmax 300 mentioned above... (and BTW, thanks for the confirmation that it uses standard 23x18 rollers!) My question is...does it also use a standard CN-250 type clutch, as far as the center hole mounting is concerned. I saw from pictures the older Xmax used 5 flyweight ar...
by BRed
Tue Jul 18, 2023 8:26 pm
Forum: Forza How-To
Topic: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT
Replies: 472
Views: 152235

Re: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT

Hello! It's been a while since I checked on this topic, but since I just bought a NEW 300cc scooter, I thought I would check in. It's not a Honda but it IS a very hot scooter, in my opinion..... the thing is, I think Yamaha did a much better job of tuning the new XMax 300 than Honda did with the For...
by BRed
Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:50 pm
Forum: Forza Technical Help
Topic: clutch driven pulley...how to remove?
Replies: 9
Views: 1578

Re: clutch driven pulley...how to remove?

Installing a new drive belt and rollers gears you "up", as in taller gearing....the belt is wider and the rollers fatter so all clearances are at max. All shift points drop a few hundred rpm, revs are reduced and fuel mileage usually increase! All that being said, your experience is testim...
by BRed
Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:49 pm
Forum: Forza Technical Help
Topic: Stock Roller size/weight
Replies: 22
Views: 6867

Re: Stock Roller size/weight

23x18- 21 grams x 6 is the factory installed weight setup on the Forza 300 (first models...I don't know which variator or weights are used on the newest version)
by BRed
Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:44 am
Forum: Forza How-To
Topic: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT
Replies: 472
Views: 152235

Re: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT

Cheapeto! Since TotalRuckus expired, I've lost touch with a lot of Ruck riders. We (the original Big Ruckus riders from TR) still ride for about a week every year around the full moon in June...this year was number 10! NC-CoN has a different look these days..... there aren't as many Rucks these days...
by BRed
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:26 pm
Forum: Forza General
Topic: New Guy
Replies: 23
Views: 2701

Re: New Guy

In some states you aren't allowed to use an automatic transmission to pass the motorcycle rider certification part of the test. So it was here in NC when I passed the rider test. If that's the case you may need to borrow a manual bike or use a local rental to pass the test (preferably a smallish one...
by BRed
Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:35 am
Forum: Forza How-To
Topic: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT
Replies: 472
Views: 152235

Re: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT

That's the correct numbers for DR Pulley 17 gram sliding rollers. Just be sure your mechanic installs them correctly. Just this past weekend, I worked on a Forza that wouldn't reach 80mph after installing 6 x 17gr sliders. I found exactly what I expected….the sliders were installed reversed. The rid...
by BRed
Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:55 pm
Forum: Forza How-To
Topic: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT
Replies: 472
Views: 152235

Re: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT

You know, I ALMOST asked if you were 100% sure the sliders were installed right! With an embarrassing lack of top end while using sliders of any weight, that's always the cause. It just didn't sound right for the range of weights you were using... with sliders you can almost bet on the fact that any...
by BRed
Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:13 pm
Forum: Forza How-To
Topic: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT
Replies: 472
Views: 152235

Re: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT

In saying it "struggles for top end", you are, in effect, saying you need to increase your 3 heaviest weights.... if running a combination, you would need to go to something like 3x21g sliders and 3x15g or maybe 3x14g rollers. of course, you can also regain top end with 6 x19g sliders, but...
by BRed
Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:37 pm
Forum: Forza How-To
Topic: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT
Replies: 472
Views: 152235

Re: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT

Kompact, with your current setup, what is your 0-100kph time (roughly) and what is your max comfortable cruise speed (not pegged throttle speed)? I have direct experience with DR Pulley's slider based variator, the JCosta traverse pin type variator, and both Honda variators (single track and dual tr...
by BRed
Tue May 29, 2018 11:36 pm
Forum: Forza How-To
Topic: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT
Replies: 472
Views: 152235

Re: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT

I have a set of the 23 gram HRS carbon weights, but have never tested them with the Veypor.... I'm saving them for a future test. since the HRS weights are actually a cylinder with 2 slightly flattened spots as opposed to the rounded polygon shape of sliders, they would not work in a combination but...
by BRed
Fri May 18, 2018 2:47 pm
Forum: Forza How-To
Topic: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT
Replies: 472
Views: 152235

Re: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT

Sesdave: Malossi rollers are a little undersized as far as diameter (usually 23.0mm) so about .25mm smaller than Honda OEM? If sized properly when installed the sliders should rattle a bit as the 3 rollers are supporting the moving face when the variator is fully closed AND fully open. Honda rollers...
by BRed
Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:14 am
Forum: Forza General
Topic: Hello from Carolina!
Replies: 20
Views: 5758

Re: Hello from Carolina!

You you is right....PhotoBucket has gone commercial after 10 or 12 years of free use. Don't worry....your linked images will reappear when you send us $300 in BitCoin. My apologies to all.....admins, feel free to delete any thread of mine with dead links that annoy you. Without the pics, most are me...
by BRed
Sat Jun 24, 2017 3:44 am
Forum: Forza How-To
Topic: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT
Replies: 472
Views: 152235

Re: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT

A couple of runs that might be useful to those using simple single weight setups..... these are single weight setups of various weights compared to DR Pulley 19gram sliders. http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r154/BRed1/weightrev-2.jpg http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r154/BRed1/weightspd-2.jpg Se...
by BRed
Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:23 am
Forum: Forza General
Topic: Hello from Carolina!
Replies: 20
Views: 5758

Re: Hello from Carolina!

Marc: I may indeed have some of the older versions of the Veypor Analytical Software on a backup drive. I'll check. I have an older VR1 and after an upgrade about a year ago too my VR2 to the most recent VR3 firmware which included for the first time variable gearing calculations for a CVT type tran...
by BRed
Sat May 27, 2017 11:52 pm
Forum: Forza How-To
Topic: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT
Replies: 472
Views: 152235

Re: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT

Be sure to record those numbers.... as your sliders wear in and burnish the bearing surface they will inevitably show a slight change in performance. After about 100-200 miles of wear, the sliders will start to move out faster due to a reduction of "stiction"... when this happens you'll no...
by BRed
Fri May 26, 2017 11:34 pm
Forum: Forza How-To
Topic: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT
Replies: 472
Views: 152235

Re: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT

A good question but one you'll be able to answer for your self soon enough. The slider never actually makes contact at the point opposite the flat where you measured. The installation drawing accurately depicts this. all lifting contact occurs on the front half of the slider so there isn't actually ...
by BRed
Fri May 26, 2017 3:09 am
Forum: Forza How-To
Topic: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT
Replies: 472
Views: 152235

Re: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT

a couple of pics of my newish NT.....

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sorry for the off topic drift...........
by BRed
Fri May 26, 2017 2:58 am
Forum: Forza How-To
Topic: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT
Replies: 472
Views: 152235

Re: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT

Salsbury, I'm glad you found some useful information in all those graphs! TechFrog, it's been my experience that when a rider says this bike or THAT bike, needs another gear, it's usually the rider and not the bike, who really needs another gear. :) The NT700 and your NC700 are perfect examples of d...
by BRed
Sun May 07, 2017 12:55 am
Forum: Forza How-To
Topic: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT
Replies: 472
Views: 152235

Re: Tuning the Forza 300 CVT

TechFrog: yep I'm still around even though I traded my Forza for a 6 year old unsold NT700 just for an upcoming cross country ride... I still think the Forza would have made the 4000 mile trip without issues, but I would have been the smallest bike on the ride by a deficit of 300cc or more. I didn't...