2017 Model Forza, Will it exist in the USA ???

General Honda Forza 300 chat, questions about the Forza, or questions about riding.

Moderator: Modsquad

User avatar
you you
What's a wot?
What's a wot?
Posts: 10000
Joined: Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:37 pm
Location: Between Lulu and Chichi

Re: 2017 Model Forza, Will it exist in the USA ???

Post by you you »

gn2 wrote:If there's to be any change it will probably be announced at EICMA next month.
I doubt it is high up in the Honda global agenda.
davenowherejones
Frequent Poster
Frequent Poster
Posts: 1817
Joined: Sat Jun 20, 2015 12:06 pm
Year: 2014
Color: Silver
Location: Hope, BC, Canada

Re: ...

Post by davenowherejones »

DioTiAma wrote:Check the new Yamaha X-MAX 300A 2017 and forget about Honda Forza 300. It's obsolete.
Looks like a Forza but maybe it was done right?
User avatar
DioTiAma
Regular User
Regular User
Posts: 172
Joined: Sat May 17, 2014 4:16 am
Year: 2013 NSS300A
Color: Seal Silver
Location: Cyprus

...

Post by DioTiAma »

"He who laughs last, laughs best"... Dave, in my opinion, Honda will present 2016 Forza's 125 body with 2016 SH300i's engine... In a bit... Though 2017 Yamaha X-MAX 300A tends to be perfect. Specially at €5.500!
Attachments
2017 Yamaha X-MAX 300A.jpg
2017 Yamaha X-MAX 300A.jpg (406.14 KiB) Viewed 1410 times
JetPilot
Regular User
Regular User
Posts: 181
Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:34 am
Year: 2019
Color: INVISIBLE
Location: MIAMI

Re: 2017 Model Forza, Will it exist in the USA ???

Post by JetPilot »

Hi DioTiAma,

The Yamaha X Max does look really awesome, it is something I would absolutely consider over the Forza... Its best feature is BIGGER WHEELS, exactly why I bought the SH150i :D :D :D From the picture it has ABS, and I like the keyless, and LED's, it does have a lot of nice technology. But that leads to another question, is it going to be available in the USA ??? I do not see it on the USA website, so I am guessing not :x

Mike
Image
dergav
Forum Benefactor
Forum Benefactor
Posts: 309
Joined: Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:15 pm
Year: 2014
Color: grey
Location: Scotland

Re: 2017 Model Forza, Will it exist in the USA ???

Post by dergav »

remember caution when buying the first models available...think gn!!
User avatar
gn2
Forum Benefactor
Forum Benefactor
Posts: 7767
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:54 pm
Year: None
Location: NE Scotland

Re: 2017 Model Forza, Will it exist in the USA ???

Post by gn2 »

Spec looks good, but it fell out the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.
Four decades on two wheels has taught me nothing, all advice given is guaranteed to be wrong
User avatar
DioTiAma
Regular User
Regular User
Posts: 172
Joined: Sat May 17, 2014 4:16 am
Year: 2013 NSS300A
Color: Seal Silver
Location: Cyprus

...

Post by DioTiAma »

Ugly or otherwise is just a matter of opinion.
User avatar
87112
Regular User
Regular User
Posts: 397
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:29 pm
Color: 15 Forza
Location: Seattle/ El Paso

Re: 2017 Model Forza, Will it exist in the USA ???

Post by 87112 »

Ugly, the PCX has a timeless design with the Yamaha looks dated already. I sure hopes it rides better than the SMAX which borders on terrible at least for me in the handling dept.
:geek:
User avatar
gn2
Forum Benefactor
Forum Benefactor
Posts: 7767
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:54 pm
Year: None
Location: NE Scotland

Re: ...

Post by gn2 »

DioTiAma wrote:Ugly or otherwise is just a matter of opinion.
Very true, but its people's opinions which determine the success or otherwise in the sales league tables.
Yamaha's Xmax sales have been on a downward trend since they started going all points and angles.
The good news is the new motor, the Xmax250 was long overdue an update.
Hopefully it will have Yamaha's usually long valve clearance check intervals.
Four decades on two wheels has taught me nothing, all advice given is guaranteed to be wrong
Embattle
Regular User
Regular User
Posts: 87
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:39 pm
Year: 2014
Color: Red
Location: London

Re: 2017 Model Forza, Will it exist in the USA ???

Post by Embattle »

I like a lot of it but the main negative for me looking at the pictures is a lack of leg stretch room.
User avatar
DioTiAma
Regular User
Regular User
Posts: 172
Joined: Sat May 17, 2014 4:16 am
Year: 2013 NSS300A
Color: Seal Silver
Location: Cyprus

...

Post by DioTiAma »

I though the exact same thing! But, after taking a good look at the pictures, i'm pretty sure that the guy riding it is like 1,97m!!! Scooter is 2,18m... Picture him stretched... Maybe he is even 2,21m!!!
Attachments
2017 Yamaha X-MAX 300A.jpg
2017 Yamaha X-MAX 300A.jpg (1.01 MiB) Viewed 1344 times
waybar
Regular User
Regular User
Posts: 78
Joined: Sat May 10, 2014 7:20 pm
Location: Freeport, IL

Re: 2017 Model Forza, Will it exist in the USA ???

Post by waybar »

I would never be able to ride it with my legs in that position for very long. Need to stretch them out. I'll keep my Forza.
User avatar
DioTiAma
Regular User
Regular User
Posts: 172
Joined: Sat May 17, 2014 4:16 am
Year: 2013 NSS300A
Color: Seal Silver
Location: Cyprus

...

Post by DioTiAma »

You can place your feet on the upper part of the footrest too.
Attachments
2017 Yamaha X-MAX 300A.jpg
2017 Yamaha X-MAX 300A.jpg (160.17 KiB) Viewed 1326 times
User avatar
gn2
Forum Benefactor
Forum Benefactor
Posts: 7767
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:54 pm
Year: None
Location: NE Scotland

Re: 2017 Model Forza, Will it exist in the USA ???

Post by gn2 »

You can probably get your feet up there, but its unlikely to be comfortable unless you have very short legs.
Looks just like the J300/Downtown in this regard.
Four decades on two wheels has taught me nothing, all advice given is guaranteed to be wrong
JetPilot
Regular User
Regular User
Posts: 181
Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:34 am
Year: 2019
Color: INVISIBLE
Location: MIAMI

Re: 2017 Model Forza, Will it exist in the USA ???

Post by JetPilot »

Now that I look at that guys riding position on the Yamaha X Max 300A, that does SUCK. There is nowhere to put your feel forward on a long ride, those upper foot placements are USELESS unless you are a midget. Having my legs bent that much for hours with no possible way to stretch out would be HORRIBLE.

The thing I liked about the Forza is how comfortable it is, and it cruiser like riding position would be perfect on long trips, So I will stick with a Forza.

UGLY or PRETTY: I could not care less. How much I enjoy riding it, and how comfortable it is, handling, vibration, is EVERYTHING. I do not give a rats arse if people admire it while its parked or not. I am a rider, not a poser.

Mike
Image
User avatar
DioTiAma
Regular User
Regular User
Posts: 172
Joined: Sat May 17, 2014 4:16 am
Year: 2013 NSS300A
Color: Seal Silver
Location: Cyprus

...

Post by DioTiAma »

Good for you Mike. Enjoy your scooter.
Embattle
Regular User
Regular User
Posts: 87
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:39 pm
Year: 2014
Color: Red
Location: London

Re: 2017 Model Forza, Will it exist in the USA ???

Post by Embattle »

In essence it is more of a sporty type scooter than a cruiser.
Embattle
Regular User
Regular User
Posts: 87
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:39 pm
Year: 2014
Color: Red
Location: London

Re: 2017 Model Forza, Will it exist in the USA ???

Post by Embattle »

I also expect it to cost quite a bit more than the current Forza.
User avatar
gn2
Forum Benefactor
Forum Benefactor
Posts: 7767
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:54 pm
Year: None
Location: NE Scotland

Re: 2017 Model Forza, Will it exist in the USA ???

Post by gn2 »

Embattle wrote:I also expect it to cost quite a bit more than the current Forza.
If imore expensive than a Forza, it won't succeed.
The Peugeot Satelis 400i is the same price as a Forza, but crucially Peugeot does not yet have ABS fitted across its range.
When ABS goes on the Satelis 400i whatever price it is, the Xmax 300 will need to be cheaper.
Four decades on two wheels has taught me nothing, all advice given is guaranteed to be wrong
JetPilot
Regular User
Regular User
Posts: 181
Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:34 am
Year: 2019
Color: INVISIBLE
Location: MIAMI

Re: 2017 Model Forza, Will it exist in the USA ???

Post by JetPilot »

gn2 wrote:
Embattle wrote:I also expect it to cost quite a bit more than the current Forza.
If imore expensive than a Forza, it won't succeed.
The Peugeot Satelis 400i is the same price as a Forza, but crucially Peugeot does not yet have ABS fitted across its range.
When ABS goes on the Satelis 400i whatever price it is, the Xmax 300 will need to be cheaper.
Hi GN2,

I would pay considerably more money for a Honda or Yamaha quality. The brand history and reputation can easily bring in a higher price.

I really like the looks, and specs on the Xmax 300, price would not be a factor if I like the scooter. But the upright seating position is a deal killer for me, it looks like it would be a lot like riding my Honda SH150i, great around town for rides of an hour or less, but horribly uncomfortable on a 8 hour ride out in the country that I like to do.

Mike
Image
Post Reply