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Re: Michelin & Pirelli tyre suppplier

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Hello Guys!
I am a new member of this site. Do you have any idea if there is any kind of winter tire for PCX?
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Welcome to the forums!

I haven't seen a winter-specific tire for the PCX. The Michelin City Grips, Pirelli Diablos, and the stock IRC tires are the only 3 I've ever seen.
Currently ride: 2011 Honda PCX 125 - Upgraded windshield and seat, keeping this one mostly stock
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That is strange there is no winter tire for this model after selling about 30000 of this. :(
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Not strange at all, there is simply no need for them.
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gn2 wrote:Not strange at all, there is simply no need for them.
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qed wrote:
gn2 wrote:Not strange at all, there is simply no need for them.
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I don't understand the rolleyes here -- GN2 is right. There is no need for them.

The PCX is a great commuter scooter, but no scooter is outfitted or capable of driving well on snow or ice, hence the lack of a winter tire. If you plan on riding your PCX through snowbanks and on ice, you'll soon regret it. The only type of motorcycle even remotely capable of properly riding on snow is a dual-sport bike, and even then, riding on snow and ice is a controlled continuous loss of traction.
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You could define a Winter tire in two ways. First is for use in snow which on any bike is crazy. Second is as a seasonal tire, The IRC tire treads are setup for dry with more of a intermediate wet tread, Saying that I have never had a issue with the bike in the wet.
The treads on the Michelin tires look like they are more setup for wet riding but they are still advertised as summer tires on there website.

My IRC tires are getting down towards been slick but they still cope with some northern england rain.
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Winter tyres aren't just for snow. Below 7 degrees centigrade the rubber compound in summer tyres becomes hard and so will lose grip. Winter tyres are a legal requirement in some European country's during the winter months. Winter tyres use a tread rubber compound (high silica content) and tread pattern specifically designed to retain flexibility in low temperatures (below +7C) and give good braking/traction performance on snow/ice as well as on wet roads in cold conditions .
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Maddiedog! I do not plan to use my pcx on snow or ice, but if the winter is mild (0degree) and the road is dry why should I prefer car? Alibally was right, that was the reason why I wanted to buy winter tires. In Budapest you cannot move by car and the public transport is expensive and terrible, so I would choose the pcx version of transportation. :D
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Greatcsaba wrote:if the winter is mild (0degree) and the road is dry
In these conditions the OEM IRC tyres are fine, so are Michelin City Grips.
I haven't used the Pirelli Diablos or the Maxxis yet but suspect they would be OK too.
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I second GN2's opinion. The stock tires will be more than fine.

As Alibally noted, the tires will be a bit harder, so take it easy until the tires have a chance to warm up.
Currently ride: 2011 Honda PCX 125 - Upgraded windshield and seat, keeping this one mostly stock
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maddiedog wrote:I second GN2's opinion. The stock tires will be more than fine.

As Alibally noted, the tires will be a bit harder, so take it easy until the tires have a chance to warm up.
This will explain the varying mileage people are getting from their tyres. Tyres harden and l wear much more in colder weather so those who do not ride the winter get many more miles per tyre.
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It also has to do with climate and ride times. People who ride many, many short rides will get lower tire life than people who do predominately long rides, since the tires wear faster before they get warm.
Currently ride: 2011 Honda PCX 125 - Upgraded windshield and seat, keeping this one mostly stock
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