How a CVT works - youtube

[Duggle]

Um... what?
What are you talking about?
CBR300/300F are pushbutton start near killswitch, just like your pcx...

I meant no electric start for the bike I want. All of the above mentioned defects plus kick-start only.

I like retro: this, the Suzuki TU250 (which is finally available in Cali) or the Royal Enfield Bullet 500 (in green) would do it for me. It's actually what I really wanted but my wife was super nervous about me getting a motorcycle, a scooter was much less sinister and she was ok with that so I ended up with a PCX. Gotta take baby steps sometimes I guess.

[gn2]

A nicely preserved SRX6 would be a far better option for sunny afternoons....
http://www.rcycle.com/GB_After__4_.JPG

[Duggle]

Yeah, better, but I like the late '60s style. I'm just locked into that period as far as the styling that I like best. Totally impractical, and I'd probably get a ton of rust on the chrome since I live at the beach but I can't help it.

[Sh3p]

Oh, my mistake, you were referencing the 400.

[gn2]

As far as motorcycles go, 250-300's are generally awesome commuters. They make exceptional lane splitters and filterers where legal and permitted, skinnier than a PCX and better power if you are proficient with a clutch and shifter.

Widest point is the handlebars and mirrors.
There's nothing in it.
Better power?
That's a cracker.

For cargo space you can always get saddlebags

Which then robs you of the benefit of being narrow.

tank bags, tail bags.

No use, insecure and never fully waterproof despite manufacturer claims.
Hard rear cases are totally fugly, I hate them.

I don't want to open up the motorcycle vs scooter debate

No debate to be had.
Scooters are practical machines for transport, bikes are merely toys for a hobby.

[Duggle]

What kind of cargo are you people carrying to work? When I commuted to work, all I needed was my brain and what fit in my pockets (door badge/ID to wear around neck, keys, phone, etc). Even when I rode to work on a bicycle and took a change of clothes, it fit into one pannier.

[Sh3p]

What kind of cargo are you people carrying to work? When I commuted to work, all I needed was my brain and what fit in my pockets (door badge/ID to wear around neck, keys, phone, etc). Even when I rode to work on a bicycle and took a change of clothes, it fit into one pannier.

Since i always ride geared, any ride to work or other has to include a change of clothes and sneakers by default, so always at least a backpack worth of stuff. I also make sure to bring water and snacks when i ride, i tend to galavant and take the long routes home which sometimes involve a stop or two to goof off, beach, friend's arcade, w/e.

I also use a Cortech tail bag 2.0 and the matching saddlebags, they have rain covers included for the 1 day in rains in Los Angeles yearly.
They're kind of not fashion forward on my Daytona so i attach only when i need them.

[Duggle]

I also use a Cortech tail bag 2.0 and the matching saddlebags, they have rain covers included for the 1 day in rains in Los Angeles yearly.

I'm glad the clouds drop all that rain on you up there and are dry by the time they make it down here.

[gn2]

What kind of cargo are you people carrying to work?

I carry one small rucksack to work which I need to carry with me while working.
Usually a raincoat too....
The internal storage of a scooter is not so much for carrying stuff to work, its for storing one crash helmet, one pair of gloves, one armoured jacket and one pair armoured trousers while parked at work.
And for any groceries bought on the way home from work.
If the underseat gets filled with groceries the rucksack sits on the tunnel all on its own with no bungees or fixings of any kind.

[iceman]

Surprised all that fits under the seat - but then again you have a Forza don't you? Doubt that lot would fit in a PCX

[Slickvic]

I should add to your list - no electric start... because the next bike that I would love to have (in addition to the PCX) is the new-old Yamaha SR400. On the other hand, I don't need it for daily transport, just for fun riding, as I'm retired.

Um... what?
What are you talking about?
CBR300/300F are pushbutton start near killswitch, just like your pcx...

He's talking about the Yamaha SR400.

"Virtually unique among today’s street bikes, there’s no push-button starter. The SR400 is equipped with an easy-to-use kick starter as the only means of getting the engine running. That will draw smiles from old-school motorcycle fans and appeal to more modern motorcycle enthusiasts who value the allure of riding a motorcycle that stands out in the crowd."

[gn2]

Doubt that lot would fit in a PCX

It didn't which was why I had to fit a topbox.