PCX juddering when moving off

[wolf39us]

Dang I'm only getting like 105mpg. I want a mpg meter!!

[iceman]

Mine is UK mpg, not US or other that varies due to no gallon standard. That mpg is typical of most PCX's, usually by those that throttle hard and ride 40-60 and accelerate quickly. My PCX is only for commuting, but I pull away quiet fast from lights, do 30-40 and for the journey home have to deal with heavy traffic, but still my bike has a very good mpg consumption.

[you you]

Mine is UK mpg, not US or other that varies due to no gallon standard. That mpg is typical of most PCX's, usually by those that throttle hard and ride 40-60 and accelerate quickly. My PCX is only for commuting, but I pull away quiet fast from lights, do 30-40 and for the journey home have to deal with heavy traffic, but still my bike has a very good mpg consumption.

Quite fast? Unless you have a cork in the exhaust

[dem0nk1d]

The 2015's do - you can toggle through several things such as total miles, trip, mpg or km/l, etc. Sometimes after a fill-up and 'reset' for the trip miles, it can go a bit wild and give very strange mpg (I've had 100's mpg) but then it soon settles and for me, it's proves to be very accurate as the fuel goes from 'full' to about a 1/2 tank downwards. I know it's that good because as mentioned I go be litres in (say 1.67) against trip miles.
Good to have a nice running PCX again - was getting worried by the low whine and nasty shudder it was making before the clutch cut in.

Did they finally get smart and install a clock??? that would be ideal to be able to scroll through, clock, miles / km, and odo reading

[iceman]

The 2015's do - you can toggle through several things such as total miles, trip, mpg or km/l, etc. Sometimes after a fill-up and 'reset' for the trip miles, it can go a bit wild and give very strange mpg (I've had 100's mpg) but then it soon settles and for me, it's proves to be very accurate as the fuel goes from 'full' to about a 1/2 tank downwards. I know it's that good because as mentioned I go be litres in (say 1.67) against trip miles.
Good to have a nice running PCX again - was getting worried by the low whine and nasty shudder it was making before the clutch cut in.

Did they finally get smart and install a clock??? that would be ideal to be able to scroll through, clock, miles / km, and odo reading

Yes - besides the larger tank, led lights, and new seat, the clock/trip/mpg is a nice extra. One button toggles what is displayed other than clock time, and holding it in at certain selections resets or changes the reading i.e mpg, km/l, etc. Most things selectable, but varies from country to country.
Still no real use for the 12v socket (most devices will have more than enough juice for in-town riding, but is useful to charge things on longer journeys) and still cannot fit any helmet I've tried under the seat! (tried three brands of L helmet - just a cm too deep for the seat to close properly).
What I would like for a new 2017 PCX would be an extra cm deepness under the seat to accommodate larger helmets, bit extra length on the side stand so bike is slightly more upright, better suspension, deeper/larger front lockable draw and easier access to the valves - other than that the 2015 PCX seems fine.

[gn2]

Needs a bigger engine.

[iceman]

Would then have to pass an A1/A2 or full test to ride >125cc and Honda would not sell many in the UK. It seems a lot of people just renew the CBT rather than take an A1 or above test - cost of A1 is about £350+ and CBT is £79 for 2 yr's. I gather Honda believe the 125 Forza will sell to those who want a bit more power, but then the question is how many would bother passing a proper test to ride on motorways and still have a 125!

[gn2]

Proper full licence is a one-off.
Gives you the ability to ride a decent machine forever.

A 200cc PCX would be a big seller in other markets.

[ScooteringAbout]

Proper full licence is a one-off.
Gives you the ability to ride a decent machine forever.

A 200cc PCX would be a big seller in other markets.

If you dislike the PCX and wish everyone had a full license why still remain on the PCX forum?

I ride with a CBT and plan to do my CBT again this year when due, and probably again after that, simply because at the minute a 125cc bike is enough for the miles I do and the work I do, why would I want to spend more money on a license, and a bigger bike which brings in higher running costs when I can make do with what I have comfortably?

[Alibally]

It's a forza forum as well.
I'm in the same mindset. I'm not planning on getting anything bigger so a cbt every 2 years isn't something I'm really bothered about.
If nothing else it acts as a refresher course.

[ScooteringAbout]

It's a forza forum as well.

Just don't see the hate on the PCX when the sign on the top of the forum is PCX? I know if i want more power etc etc to get a license and a bigger bike, but it being subtly hinted by a said member in each post nearly is tiresome.

I've said my part on this.

[Alibally]

See my edited post. I agree with you.

[dasshreddar]

ICEMAN if you would like your side stand to be longer... weld a washer or two to the bottom of it... so easy.
You might even be able to get a muffler shop to do it for free.

[ScooteringAbout]

See my edited post. I agree with you.

Ah, fair enough.

[WhiteNoise]

One of my fav scenes. "Hey, Hey!" Seems to fit right about now

[RideLondon]

Personally I'm planning on taking my A1 in a few weeks, just so I can take passengers on my PCX.
I intend to keep this bike for a long time- until it's no longer economical to maintain it. I don't have a dying urge to upgrade to a larger bike, so I might as well get comfortable, lose the L-plates and get someone on the back.

[iceman]

Personally I'm planning on taking my A1 in a few weeks, just so I can take passengers on my PCX.
I intend to keep this bike for a long time- until it's no longer economical to maintain it. I don't have a dying urge to upgrade to a larger bike, so I might as well get comfortable, lose the L-plates and get someone on the back.

I would like to have the A1 as loss of L plates and riding on a motorway (even for a few miles) would be good, even though it's still 125cc only, but it seems it's between £320-500 + another £150-200 to resit module 1 or 2 again, should you fail either. Have you got a better deal?

[gn2]

Proper full licence is a one-off.
Gives you the ability to ride a decent machine forever.

A 200cc PCX would be a big seller in other markets.

If you dislike the PCX and wish everyone had a full license why still remain on the PCX forum?

I don't dislike the PCX, apart from being too slow its pretty good.
Don't give a toss if anyone feels they want to run around on a 125 with a CBT rather than get a proper licence.
Its their loss.

[renlik]

My PCX was also shuddering when setting off, it got gradually worse and worse from around 1,000mls up to 2,500mls - Always worst when starting from cold. After reading this thread I have been avoiding slipping the clutch as much as possible, setting away from a standstill reasonably quickly and not riding along slowly in traffic (Walking pace or less) within 2 weeks of riding like this the shuddering has completely gone - even first thing in the morning. I'm assuming this has cleaned up the clutch plates and all back to normal. I'm very impressed, it was really starting to annoy me!

[iceman]

Not sure other scooters suffer in this way but it does seem to be a trend with the PCX.