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Re: Stretched engine mount

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:50 pm
by dem0nk1d
Maddiedog,

Your best bet with the spree is keep it looking stock. There are a number of mods you can do. First is to get rid of that motor that’s in it now. I think if I can remember the spree motor doesn’t have a variator, and the engine number is AF0E I think. You’re better off going with the AF16E aka the Elite 91-00 motor / Dio motor. Many parts upgrades. You would have to use en elite engine mount, and shave 6mm off each side. Maybe 7mm it’s been awhile since I’ve been in the 2T scene.

Re: Stretched engine mount

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:28 pm
by maddiedog
Is that a bolt-on otherwise? The current engine is shot. I spent ages tinkering on it, only to find it has low compression. Any recommendations where to get a good motor cheap?

Re: Stretched engine mount

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:21 pm
by dem0nk1d
hondaspree.net would be my first go to place, then check the wanted/sale ads. The Dio swap isn't a direct bolt on unless you take the 6-7mm off the sides of the mounts. I'd just get another stock engine or rebuild the stupid thing. Super simple, 4 bolts the head comes off and just change out the piston and you should be good to go. Depending on the cylinder bore.

Re: Stretched engine mount

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:48 pm
by maddiedog
I might just bin it, it's not exactly worth the effort. I'm sure someone on Craigslist will pay $100 for it. :lol:

Re: Stretched engine mount

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:12 am
by Urbanfreestyle
Whatever happened to this D? i've been looking at the 3" kit with interest. I would love to go longer but i'm not very good at mechanics and don't want to have to play with the cables etc.

Re: Stretched engine mount

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:21 am
by Mgalutia88
Come on Demonk1d. Where's our update?!! :P

I am interested also. I mostly travel on the highway.

Re: Stretched engine mount

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:22 am
by Urbanfreestyle
It's either this or force myself to part with over £250 for a 180mm stretch and have to work out how to get longer cables in.

Re: Stretched engine mount

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:46 pm
by dem0nk1d
well guys I just finished moving into my new house as you can see I've been doing some projects on the PCX. more or less I'll probably be starting on the mount next month and I'll see how it goes.

Re: Stretched engine mount

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:09 pm
by Urbanfreestyle
I want! Haha! Just so long as it isn't toooo technical! Lol

Re: Stretched engine mount

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:45 am
by magic_mike
hey whats up
just wanted to chime in on engine stretches

I build 2 stretches for other model bikes out there and you have to take into account a few things when looking at buying a stretch

first off all the scooters ive worked on the engine is mounted on rubber bushings to help with vibrations

most times a stretch will not have bushings, so it can add vibrations depending on engine size
larger engine more vibrations
Why most dont have the bushings is because depending how long it is, you can put alot of stress on them and over time they get stretched and cause wheel lean depending on how the stretch is supported to the frame
Any scooter stock engine mount ive seen has some support to the frame to keep it from moving up and down
only the engine pivots on the mount

and you have to address the rear shock mount
Now that 3 inch stretch thats available for the pcx you say doesnt come with rear shock mounts
that is going to lower the rear when installed
Which means you probably will want to lower the front so it sits level
Also it will make using the center stand really hard
May have to chop the kickstand down too, especially if you lower the front

Hopefully you have enough cable slack



Now I have a 155 scooter I make a 9 inch stretch for
Im not the first one to make these and im not the inventor either
I took things I like from the few other stretches already made and put together my own

For this bike its a bottom engine mount
so its quite simple to make a stretch, basically flat
you can use your imagination for that part

Next is the rear shock mounts, since its 9 inches longer then stock you have to address that
I was able to get the correct angle so it keeps the same exact ride height, as stock did
which also means no chopping of the kickstand, and at the same time you can keep the stock air box
To me that was important
Other stretches you have to take that out, then your stuck making an intake and filter

Also depending on where parts are located you may need to chop out some underseat storage
On my bike it was a tiny amount, because the stretch was so long
If it was shorter it would need alot more cut out


I also integrated a license plate mount into the rear shock mount, that was my own invention no one had done that
since you basically loose the entire rear fender with a stretch like this
Depending on your fab skills you could be forced to buy a plate mount so that saves the customer money too since its built in


I also use adjustable turnbuckles for each side of the stretch, the stock engine mount used one non adjustable which was fine
and I know one a couple stretch sellers still use that on one side, non adjustable
which means your engine angle is set, you can not change it
If you lower the bike, or raise it your stuck with the engine angle

To me thats important to be able to adjust, so your dipstick level is the same and of course the engine stays oiled the same also not to drag it on large bumps when the suspension moves


So my turnbuckles I can adjust engine angle, ride height
and with a stretch that long you can get wheel lean if using a support only on one side
Top right of the wheel pointing at 1o'clock

So the adjustable rods can tweak that out so the wheel is perfectly straight
Sadly the heim joints used really adds alot of cost to the stretch but to me its better to be able to adjust for any bike then force someone to use what you want to save a little


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Re: Stretched engine mount

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:07 pm
by dem0nk1d
Magic_Mike,

Mikes engine mount is solid as well. So whens the next ride homie!

Re: Stretched engine mount

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:37 pm
by Urbanfreestyle
I really want a stretch!!!!

Re: Stretched engine mount

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:07 pm
by you you
Urbanfreestyle wrote:I really want a stretch!!!!
It would go with the haircut perfectly

Re: Stretched engine mount

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:55 am
by Urbanfreestyle
you you wrote:
Urbanfreestyle wrote:I really want a stretch!!!!
It would go with the haircut perfectly
Well the theme for the bike is going black and blue! :)

Does anyone have a photo of a PCX with a 3inch stretch on it? would it infact look any different?

Re: Stretched engine mount

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:10 am
by dem0nk1d
Mike,

I notice these must be the version 2 batch, with the cut out for the exhaust! Looks bitching!


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Re: Stretched engine mount

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:07 pm
by you you
Urbanfreestyle wrote:
you you wrote:
Urbanfreestyle wrote:I really want a stretch!!!!
It would go with the haircut perfectly
Well the theme for the bike is going black and blue! :)

Does anyone have a photo of a PCX with a 3inch stretch on it? would it infact look any different?

Completely different, the engine would be 76mm further back

You will be the envy of nations...

Re: Stretched engine mount

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:40 am
by Urbanfreestyle
That's the plan, people will bow down in front of me!

Re: Stretched engine mount

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:43 am
by you you
Urbanfreestyle wrote:That's the plan, people will bow down in front of me!

There not bowing, they are looking at stretch

Re: Stretched engine mount

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 4:18 am
by kramnala58
Wouldn't work in Bangkok where every inch counts when maneuvering between cars. Stretching it out would increase the turn radius. But I do think it looks kind of cool, especially if you stretch it like this.

Re: Stretched engine mount

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:49 am
by Urbanfreestyle
you you wrote:
Urbanfreestyle wrote:That's the plan, people will bow down in front of me!

There not bowing, they are looking at stretch
Haha! Yeah they are! Does anyone know how easy it is to fit? The one on webbike doesn't have instructions