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Re: Idling stop
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:06 pm
by you you
homie wrote:Mel46 wrote: We have very little patience with devices that don't work right the first time every time.
Except Harleys we will push them the whole way and never complain because they still look cool. Hey they should try this on a Harley Davidson first and no one would get excited if it didn't work
Like the rest of the bike.
Harleys only really look cool to North Americans
Most motorcyclist in the real world wouldn't be seen dead on one
(Unless gay obv)
Re: Idling stop
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:07 pm
by you you
Alibally wrote:haildamage wrote:i know a guy who stopped his bike without putting the kickstand down or turning it off. the idle stop shut the engine down. he dismounted and then went to push the scoot into the place he wanted to park it and twisted the throttle in the process. the bike shot forward breaking the plate glass window of the business he was about to go into and injuring his hand. moral of this story: you have to be sure to turn it off or put the stand down before moving it around.
i've had mine for over 3 years now and it never fails to start up instantly, so the danger of it not starting when you need it to is BS.
The early bikes had a seat cutout switch that stopped it starting if there wasn't anybody sitting on it.
I disconnected it because if I was facing uphill and sitting back in the seat it wouldn't start.
Presumably with the bike facing uphill too?
Re: Idling stop
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:19 pm
by haildamage
Alibally wrote:haildamage wrote:i know a guy who stopped his bike without putting the kickstand down or turning it off. the idle stop shut the engine down. he dismounted and then went to push the scoot into the place he wanted to park it and twisted the throttle in the process. the bike shot forward breaking the plate glass window of the business he was about to go into and injuring his hand. moral of this story: you have to be sure to turn it off or put the stand down before moving it around.
i've had mine for over 3 years now and it never fails to start up instantly, so the danger of it not starting when you need it to is BS.
The early bikes had a seat cutout switch that stopped it starting if there wasn't anybody sitting on it.
I disconnected it because if I was facing uphill and sitting back in the seat it wouldn't start.
i have a 2011. the seat cutout switch doesnt work reliably on mine.
Re: Idling stop "safety concerns"?
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:23 pm
by kramnala58
haildamage wrote:interesting theory. i would have though this system would use less battery power than a conventional starter?
The reason it puts more drain on the battery is because there is not starter. It is either on these forums or other places online that I have read about it, so it is not just a theory.
Re: Idling stop "safety concerns"?
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:25 pm
by kramnala58
wojtek_pl wrote:BTW, 2014 PCX has (advertised...) battery sensor which disables Start/Stop system when battery is low.
Great feature.
Re: Idling stop "safety concerns"?
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:28 pm
by kramnala58
you you wrote:Nothing is idiot proof. The American authorities have just made a decision based on risk and demographics
Sadly that's what happens when lawyers can place 16'x40' (5mtr x 12mtr) billboards at every available space possible. America is very litigation happy.
Re: Idling stop
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:29 pm
by SmellyTofu
Ditto. The seat sensor switch isn't all that reliable but works >80% of the time. Just give the front of the seat a bit of a thump fixes it.
Re: Idling stop "safety concerns"?
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:31 pm
by kramnala58
SmellyTofu wrote:Works every time for me when I activate it. Love it on extends stops and starts as quick and seamlessly as a Prius unlike other non hybrids with start stop systems that take half a second of hesitation.
I agree. The incident with my PCX was also likely precipitated by a weak battery to begin with. I bought the PCX used so I don't know how old the battery was.
Is this feature also available on the Forza?
Re: Idling stop
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:15 pm
by gn2
Idle stop not available on the Forza 300.