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Mel46 wrote:yes the tires wear out faster than on a car

I was having a think about this one the other day.
Typically car tyres last longer but cost more so overall the cost may not be too dissimilar?

I got a parking warning taped around my throttle grip once, for parking on a curb, no fine though. In some cities in Oz you can do so but not where I live

gn2 wrote:

Mel46 wrote:yes the tires wear out faster than on a car

I was having a think about this one the other day.
Typically car tyres last longer but cost more so overall the cost may not be too dissimilar?

Lets figure it out shall we...

As for the pcx, i'll asume 5k miles for the rear tire and 10k miles for the front. After 10k miles you need one front ($45) and two rear ($51/each) tires for a total of $147. That's $.0147 per mile.
For my honda civic a 40k mile tire is $85 each or $340 for the set. That's .0085 per mile.

So pcx tires are about 73% more expensive than a car tire.

This was a simplified example. I'd say plus or minus 15% margin of error.

(Prices for michelin city grip tires from motorcyclesuperstore.com, and civic tires from bigotires.com)

Another way to compare would be to simply say for every 10k miles you pay $147 for pcx tires while you only pay $85 for car tires.

Two points

1: OEM IRC fronts last 15000 miles

2: The OEM rears don't last anywhere near as long as a CityGrip

One tyre for my car costs roughly the same as one scooter tyre but the car is wearing them out four at a time.
Much depends on what car you have, tyres for my old Jag cost double what the Micra tyres cost.

The real problem is the wear rate on the PCX OEM IRC rear tyre, it's just shockingly poor.

Tire prices and tire wear vary widely, that's why i mentioned a 15% margin of error. I would even say 25%. I think any way you look at it pcx tires cost significantly more than car tires.

cessna151 wrote:I think any way you look at it pcx tires cost significantly more than car tires.

Like I said it depends on how much the car tyres cost, there's huge variation.

gn2 wrote:

cessna151 wrote:I think any way you look at it pcx tires cost significantly more than car tires.

Like I said it depends on how much the car tyres cost, there's huge variation.

It's true. On my car before last it used to cost just under £900 for a set of tyres and I'd be lucky to get 10k out of them. Tbh 95% of the time I was just pottering around town so the car and the tyres were wasted

cessna151 wrote: For my honda civic a 40k mile tire is $85 each or $340 for the set. That's .0085 per mile.

You make an excellent point.
Further, we got 84,000 miles on the stock tires on our civic.

at least car tires can be rotated regulary to smooth out the wear. Hard to do on a bike! My 4WD has KumHo all terrain tires. Just love that name!

Taz wrote:at least car tires can be rotated regulary to smooth out the wear. Hard to do on a bike! My 4WD has KumHo all terrain tires. Just love that name!

Strictly speaking you can't rotate modern car tyres. More move them from front to rear and vice versa

Depends on the tyre, not all modern car tyres are directional.

My wife's Freelander has Kumho tyres and my car has Kumhos on the rear.
Kumhos are great VFM, I will be getting them on the front when the Bridgestones wear out.

gn2 wrote:Depends on the tyre, not all modern car tyres are directional.

My wife's Freelander has Kumho tyres and my car has Kumhos on the rear.
Kumhos are great VFM, I will be getting them on the front when the Bridgestones wear out.

Sorry. Most good quality tyres are directional.

There's good quality ones which go both ways.

gn2 wrote:There's good quality ones which go both ways.

You would know

Most good quality tyres are now Asymmetrical not directional. This is when the tread is different on the inside than the outside so they have inner and outer on the sidewalls. Tread patterns vary, some giving particularly good dry grip, some have characteristics designed to enhance wet performance. An asymmetrical tyre offers the best of both worlds by combining the two patterns across the width of the tread.