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Re: headlight upgrade

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:48 am
by djcat
That picture illustrates what I am trying to say. He did a good job with the additional lights though, giving people the train like look :-)

Re: headlight upgrade

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:00 am
by sendler2112
geek77 wrote:Yes we are just calling it differently.
The Xenon light source is not in the same place as the halogen bulb
Your drawing is not correct. The overall length of the HID bulb is much longer. As you already stated. Which means that the light source being in the middle of the HID actually puts the light of a properly designed HID retrofit in exactly the dame place as the halogen bulb you are taking out. But there is no denying that the more modern bi-shutter HID projector lenses have a far superior vertical cut off to any reflector lens, halogen or HID. How hard was it to get the stock headlight apart?

Re: headlight upgrade

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:27 am
by geek77
Well, it it was in the same place - it would make the same effect as the halogen bulb, in terms of light scattering and cutoff line. It doesn't. But I guess there is no need to keep discussing it.

It was easier than I expected.
Pre-heated the oven to 130 Celcius (30 or 40 min), in went the headlight for 8 minutes at 110 degrees Celcius, and after doing half - it went back in for another 3 minutes because it was cooling down.
There are many videos on Youtube - search for "bake the headlight".

Re: headlight upgrade

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:27 am
by sendler2112
So now will you trial fit the the open headlight back onto the PCX and wire it up so you can tune the aim so they are both perfectly level and at the same height?

Re: headlight upgrade

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:04 pm
by geek77
For an H7 headlight it would be easier, there is an adapter for horizontal level.
The height - no need, the height adjusting mechanism works as before, I would use the screws below the headlight, as always.

To make sure that both are leveled horizontally - yes, I will put the open headlight on the skeleton I have in my garage and connect everything, before tightening the screws that hold the projectors :-)

P.S. Actually, the bottom part of the projectors is flat. I could just hold something straight under the two and make sure they both touch it. That would do the trick.

Re: headlight upgrade

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:06 pm
by geek77
Almost there... Heat-resistant paint applied.

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Re: headlight upgrade

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:04 pm
by geek77
Since the body parts are off, why not? :lol:

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Re: headlight upgrade

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:23 pm
by you you
geek77 wrote:Since the body parts are off, why not? :lol:

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Re: headlight upgrade

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:54 am
by geek77
Thanks! :D
All parts should be back on the bike soon.
That's reflective tape, BTW. Should increase my safety by quite a margin.

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Re: headlight upgrade

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:03 pm
by geek77
Guys I'll be right back, I'll just go buy myself a medal real quick.

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Re: headlight upgrade

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:26 am
by sendler2112
Which emitters and ballasts did you get? 25 Watt? 8,000k? The pattern is perfect but the light output seems to be a small amount and is way too blue.

Re: headlight upgrade

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:57 am
by geek77
It looks a bit weird on these photos but it's absolutely white in real life, with blueish cutoff. I will try to get a picture with more realistic colors.
35W 6000k.

Re: headlight upgrade

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:35 am
by SmellyTofu
Anyone tried the LED Ribbon as the concept is much better than HID since it has directional light to the upper part of the headlight used to reflect down and reduce glare

http://www.bolt.co.jp/bike-led-headligh ... cx-hs5.asp

http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0 ... bon-h3.jpg

Re: headlight upgrade

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:20 am
by sol.like
Hi geek77, where u found the projectors and xenon parts and who's costs 22$ the projector or blubs? I like and want do the same. And an oter question it's for left or right drive (england/thai or rest Europe) or can order left/right

Re: headlight upgrade

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:25 am
by chainsaw
SmellyTofu wrote:Anyone tried the LED Ribbon as the concept is much better than HID since it has directional light to the upper part of the headlight used to reflect down and reduce glare

I will be installing LED ribbons in a couple of weeks!!

Re: headlight upgrade

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:46 pm
by geek77
sol.like wrote:Hi geek77, where u found the projectors and xenon parts and who's costs 22$ the projector or blubs? I like and want do the same. And an oter question it's for left or right drive (england/thai or rest Europe) or can order left/right
Hi!

Sure, they got LHD and RHD.

The price is for 2 projectors, Xenon kit not included.

But you can buy the Xenon kit on the same website for 17 or 18 euros, too.

And the shipping is free. So it's really a cheap thing to do.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Wholesal ... 82941.html

And also I advise you to buy 2 of these (for high beams, BI-xenon):

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/ight-Qua ... 76512.html

Have fun!

Re: headlight upgrade

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:04 pm
by SmellyTofu
chainsaw wrote:
SmellyTofu wrote:Anyone tried the LED Ribbon as the concept is much better than HID since it has directional light to the upper part of the headlight used to reflect down and reduce glare

I will be installing LED ribbons in a couple of weeks!!
Please kee us posted. I'd be very interested in the results

Re: headlight upgrade

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:13 pm
by geek77
With the xenon projectors:

Re: headlight upgrade

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:21 pm
by SmellyTofu
chainsaw wrote:
SmellyTofu wrote:Anyone tried the LED Ribbon as the concept is much better than HID since it has directional light to the upper part of the headlight used to reflect down and reduce glare

I will be installing LED ribbons in a couple of weeks!!
Any updates?

Re: headlight upgrade

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:36 am
by chainsaw
I installed the LED Ribbons today. it was fairly easy with the main issue being the size of the heatsinks and locating the processor boxes. The butterfly style heatsinks are huge and i needed to move some wires out of the way, nothing too dramatic though. I rigged it all up without doing a full install, so i could do some heat testing first and found that it only got to a lukewarm temp over most of the parts with the exception of the nipple things at the rear of the main globe part. This part got very hot quite quickly but it was easy to keep wires etc away from it. Overall the install was straightforward with a bit of research concerning honda wiring colours and translating the japanese instructions. I now have LEDs allround on my bike and as I have just moved to the outskirts of my city, the improved high-beam will be very handy.