The Honda PCX / Forza / ADV150 / SH Forums

It seems like there are many different reasons, but both the PCX and the NC700 share the Honda name (and reliability we hope), appear to be a good value for the money, and get relatively good gas mileage.

Tuanies, I'm with you on the manual transmission for cars and automatic for scooters. I've always had manual transmissions on my cars, and I hate dealing with automatics on the rare occasions I've needed to. I've never tried to shift gears on a motorcycle however, and I wonder if I'd change my mind once I'd learned? I've thought about taking the MSF class again, but on a motorcycle instead of a scooter so I could try it out with a well used motorcycle I didn't care about. I think it would be fun to learn motorcycle shifting, but with all the hills around here I don't think I'd want to give up the simple twist and go of the PCX.

I suspect that a third motorcycle or scooter is in our future but we are at our limit with two cars and two scooters...which means 4 vehicles to keep registered, insured, and maintained. Purchasing a new one definitely requires giving another one up . For now, it is just fun to look and consider.

I have a normal motorcycle as well, but I don't miss the shifting at all. Especially because I drive to drive economically when commuting, which means shifting fairly often. With the DCT, I can trust the automatic mode to shift for me, while keeping the option to change gears manually if I want to. Yes, it doesn't have a clutch, but I can live with that

rainburg wrote:It seems like there are many different reasons, but both the PCX and the NC700 share the Honda name (and reliability we hope), appear to be a good value for the money, and get relatively good gas mileage.

Tuanies, I'm with you on the manual transmission for cars and automatic for scooters. I've always had manual transmissions on my cars, and I hate dealing with automatics on the rare occasions I've needed to. I've never tried to shift gears on a motorcycle however, and I wonder if I'd change my mind once I'd learned? I've thought about taking the MSF class again, but on a motorcycle instead of a scooter so I could try it out with a well used motorcycle I didn't care about. I think it would be fun to learn motorcycle shifting, but with all the hills around here I don't think I'd want to give up the simple twist and go of the PCX.

I suspect that a third motorcycle or scooter is in our future but we are at our limit with two cars and two scooters...which means 4 vehicles to keep registered, insured, and maintained. Purchasing a new one definitely requires giving another one up . For now, it is just fun to look and consider.

My thing with the PCX is just constantly trying to make myself comfortable so I shift around a lot. I'd imagine with a motorcycle it'd be less comfortable since your foot will always have to be in a set place if you're shifting vs wherever you want it on a scooter.

We'll have to get together sometime when the weather gets nicer though!

tuanies wrote:I'd imagine with a motorcycle it'd be less comfortable since your foot will always have to be in a set place if you're shifting vs wherever you want it on a scooter.

Not really a problem, you can move your feet around on a normal motorbike.

With the DCT, I can trust the automatic mode to shift for me, while keeping the option to change gears manually if I want to. Yes, it doesn't have a clutch, but I can live with that

The DCT does sound attractive, other than the additional $2K to add it and ABS (at least in the US). Does anyone have an idea of what the maintenance and reliability might be for the DCT?

rainburg wrote:

With the DCT, I can trust the automatic mode to shift for me, while keeping the option to change gears manually if I want to. Yes, it doesn't have a clutch, but I can live with that

The DCT does sound attractive, other than the additional $2K to add it and ABS (at least in the US). Does anyone have an idea of what the maintenance and reliability might be for the DCT?

No I don't, and that's what worries me somewhat. I would like to know for example if the oil for the DCT is separate from the engine. If so, will it have to be changed, or is it supposed to be life-time? And when it has to be changed for one reason or another, what is the procedure like? I've heard some nasty stories about Volkswagen DSG trannies (dual-clutch as well) that require an oil-change ever ~60.000km, which amounts to a half a timing belt change worth of work, plus the need for special equipment to change and check it.

I can't find any specific information about it. Maybe looking for experience with the VFR1200 DCT is a better way to go about this

tuanies wrote: My thing with the PCX is just constantly trying to make myself comfortable so I shift around a lot. I'd imagine with a motorcycle it'd be less comfortable since your foot will always have to be in a set place if you're shifting vs wherever you want it on a scooter.

I've been riding a BMW F650 last year through Europe on holiday (3900km). After riding motor scooters for over 10 years I also worried about not being able to move your feet. But it seemed to be no problem at all, I did sit better on the F650 than on most scooters. So comfortability is not always better on a scooter.

the one problem with my white PCX is it shows up every spec of dirt and I hate cleaning!

Just let it get dirty then!

I probably wash my PCX once every two weeks, it gets more baths then all my other vehicles combined...

Waxing the paint helps dirt to bounce off, can't do anything about bugs and bird crap though, I always have to scrub that crap off.

Just to let you guys know, the 150 is priced the same as the "old" 125 here in Thailand at 79,000 baht which equates to about 1,600 GBP or 2,500 USD. That's for the ally wheel model.

Cheers,

Pikey.

bikeypikey wrote:Just to let you guys know, the 150 is priced the same as the "old" 125 here in Thailand at 79,000 baht which equates to about 1,600 GBP or 2,500 USD. That's for the ally wheel model.

Cheers,

Pikey.

I wish. A PCX costs about £2500 in the UK.

They do.......

Pikey, the PCX retails for $3399 on the East coast (before dealer fees), and $3999 on the West coast. If they were only $2500, we would have bought two.

$3999 on the west coast? Perhaps in California. In Washington it is the regular list price of $3399 and then any ridiculous dealer additions such as delivery charges..... less whatever you can negotiate down.

It would be strange if the PCX 150 had a similar price as the 125. How would Honda justify the list price on the SH150i of $4499? I'm looking forward to hearing about it once they decide to put an MSRP for the PCX150 on their website.

Just to qualify what I said earlier, the PCX125 is no longer available and has been superceded here in Thailand by the PCX150 but at roughly the same price, which is a steal.

This'll probably piss off people that have recently bought the 125 but it does mean that secondhand values will take a knock and after spinning around on the wife's 150 for a bit, I am hopefully picking up a 2 year old 125 for 50,000 THB which works out to be a shade over a grand UK or 1,500 USD. I only got told about it tonight and have not seen it yet, but if it is all good then I will do the deal on monday and post pics. It's that dodgy bronze colour but it's cheap enough to change and provides a cheap base to start accessorizing with bling and go faster stuff.

Cheers,

Pikey.

Saw an end of June delivery date for the PCX 150 here in Holland mentioned on a forum. I've just ordered a 125 coming the end of May. Maybe I should call my dealer and ask him about it. I also was said to be 100 euros more than a PCX 125.
On another (non Dutch) site I saw a September delivery date.

You could ask -- if you were willing to wait an extra month, the extra power may be worth it to you.

I've asked my dealer about the PCX 150 and he said it was coming at the end of June, week 26. Only 100 euros extra. Also the color red is getting available here in Holland. So........

I've changed my order for a white PCX 125 in a red PCX 150!!!
Only have to wait an extra month!

Totally worth it. Extra 25cc and red. Worth it in my book. Red looks waaaaaay better than white!!

Fascinating discussion in this older thread ... when the the PCX 150 was just a dream on the horizon.
These cute little scooters sure have captured us!