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Re: Drive wheeling spinning on idle - Normal?

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:23 am
by chigman
Whilst idling and on center stand, my rear wheel slowly rotates on a 125cc uk machine.

Re: Drive wheeling spinning on idle - Normal?

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:48 am
by iceman
I just went and cleaned the scoot as I got caught in a horrendous thunder storm en-route to work this morning (2.30am!) - I'd left my waterproofs at work too as the forecast was for slight showers 7pm the next day :( - took ages to get from atlantic drenched look to fell in a puddle look :)
Checked the rotation of the rear wheel both ways again - seems fine, no noise. Lucky I guess.

Re: Drive wheeling spinning on idle - Normal?

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:56 am
by maddiedog
2011 PCX 125 bored out to 170cc... Rear does not spin when idle on the centerstand.

It's just clutch engagement. The fresher your clutch is, the thicker the pads are, and the more likely they'll just barely catch at idle. A lower idle or more clutch wear will stop the spin. The idle on the PCX is not adjustable, so no worries there.

As long as the bike doesn't try to lurch forwards at idle, it's perfectly normal and you have nothing to worry about.

Re: Drive wheeling spinning on idle - Normal?

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:57 am
by iceman
Mines only now done about 1500 or so miles - not seen the rear wheel rotation at any point, but only had the bike idling on the center stand twice (1st time about 2 months back). You say there is not idle adjustment on the PCX? But, the service chart mentions idle speed check? (I thought there was a rotational adjustment somewhere on the rhs of the bike? - not sure where I got that).

Re: Drive wheeling spinning on idle - Normal?

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:48 pm
by homie
iceman wrote:I seem to be in the minority with a rear wheel that does not spin when idling on the center stand, and no real noise to be heard rotated either way (just a very quite noise rather than pure silence, which being heavy with bearings I think is fine). I wonder if there is a difference in UK/US models re. the additional brake thingy US models have and how they are setup? Many say the parking brake was useless out of the dealer, so maybe the rear wheel is just a bit more free/slack than some UK ones?
Well here is what I get cold or hot, and my parking brake is perfectly adjusted.


Re: Drive wheeling spinning on idle - Normal?

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:03 pm
by Steph
Finally checked this out. Both our PCXs have a slow rear wheel rotation while on the center stand. This with a cold motor. Course forgot to check when warm.

Re: Drive wheeling spinning on idle - Normal?

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:52 pm
by WhiteNoise
Thanks!
Homie/Steph, was "Any" noise heard while scoot was running on CS and spinning?
Also...Do you hear any noise when You move your scoot (with the motor off and in as little as ten feet?)

Re: Drive wheeling spinning on idle - Normal?

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:15 pm
by homie
WhiteNoise wrote:Thanks!
Homie/Steph, was "Any" noise heard while scoot was running on CS and spinning?
Also...Do you hear any noise when You move your scoot (with the motor off and in as little as ten feet?)
the motor running noise just like in vid... should I be listening closer?

I used to hear all kinds of creaking and whining from the steering column where cables are bottle necked (when rolled around) but that was easy to fix by passing a little WD-40 on a rag on about every rubber coated cable running through the front fender well.

Re: Drive wheeling spinning on idle - Normal?

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:43 pm
by Steph
No unusual noises such as a mechanical malfunction. The motor running may cover lesser noises. No unusual noises when pushing the scooter with the motor off either.

Re: Drive wheeling spinning on idle - Normal?

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:21 am
by iceman
WhiteNoise wrote:Thanks!
Homie/Steph, was "Any" noise heard while scoot was running on CS and spinning?
Also...Do you hear any noise when You move your scoot (with the motor off and in as little as ten feet?)
Are you hearing strange or worrying noises then WhiteNoise?

Re: Drive wheeling spinning on idle - Normal?

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:25 am
by binje
The rear wheel on my 2011 UK PCX 125 rotates as well. Looking at homie's video, mine probably rotates at half that speed on idle on the CS. I see it every day simply because I leave it on for a min or two to warm up.

Incidentally homie... Kudos on how clean that bike is...spotless :) :) :)

Re: Drive wheeling spinning on idle - Normal?

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:44 am
by iceman
So you start the bike before moving off the center stand? I see people do that but thought the slight shock of the bike coming off the stand and onto wheel/suspension may not be good for things, esp. with the stand attached direct to the engine block.