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Battery won't hold a charge, PCX 150 2013

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:13 pm
by Jarec
Hi all, my 2013 PCX 150 battery won't hold a charge. I replaced the stock battery, which wouldn't hold a charge, with a cheap after market one and the cheapie also won't hold a charge. This wasn't a problem last season.

I've thought of buying a new stock battery...also I have an extended warranty and wonder if I should just drop it off at the dealer. A generator/alternator problem?

I do have a self-installed oscillating LED light on the back, the kind that calls attention to the scooter by oscillating back and forth, and flashing extra when braking. I suppose in theory that could cause current drain while the ignition is off, but since it worked ok last season I think that's probably not the problem.

Thanks in advance for your help, John

Re: Battery won't hold a charge, PCX 150 2013

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:15 pm
by you you
Disconnect the light and see if that works?

Re: Battery won't hold a charge, PCX 150 2013

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:25 pm
by Jarec
That's a thought...
you you wrote:Disconnect the light and see if that works?

Re: Battery won't hold a charge, PCX 150 2013

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:47 pm
by Mel46
I have a 2013 as well, and I also have the knight rider type light in the back. Unless you have wired it wrong and it is grounding out your battery, the light itself should not be a problem. When you check the voltage on your good battery, make sure it reads between 12.7 and 13.4 volts. Anything less will mean a weak or bad cell. A lot of cheap batteries have thin walls and can not handle high use. The top battery, aside from the new lithium ones, is probably the Yuasa YTZ7S....not a 'replacement' for it. If you buy a 'replacement' you will get what you pay for it. You could probably get a decent replacement, but not for a third of the price of a name brand one.

Re: Battery won't hold a charge, PCX 150 2013

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:51 pm
by Jarec
Thanks for your advice. I've ordered the Yuasa and will see how it works. I'll need a good battery anyway, and if it doesn't work out I'll take the next steps in the trouble shooting.

Re: Battery won't hold a charge, PCX 150 2013

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:27 pm
by Mel46
http://www.bikebandit.com/aftermarket-p ... s?m=154752
For all of you who have not seen the new lithium battery for the pcx, here is a link.

Re: Battery won't hold a charge, PCX 150 2013

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:03 pm
by Jarec
That's very interesting, and less expensive than the stock battery I just ordered. I'm curious about charging it. I assume that it has charging characteristics similar to the stock lead acid battery in order to work with the scooter's recharging system, and therefore might be compatible with the external chargers we already have. I like the characteristics from the link you provided:

Features
-The most advanced high-power Lithium Iron Phosphate battery technology from BikeMaster
-Ultra high cranking amps from a super lightweight battery. On average 1/3 the weight of a lead acid battery
-Cylindrical cell with energy storage welding technology for higher output
-Built-in charge and equalizing protection board, preventing battery from over-charging
-Remarkably low self-discharge rate for extended periods of storage
-Suitable for low temp environments
-More than twice the service life of conventional lead acid batteries
-Superior vibration-resistant construction allows multidirectional installation without damage
-No corrosive liquids and no toxic heavy metals make the BikeMaster Lithium Ion Batteries environmentally friendly
-Two year warranty
Mel46 wrote:http://www.bikebandit.com/aftermarket-p ... s?m=154752
For all of you who have not seen the new lithium battery for the pcx, here is a link.

Re: Battery won't hold a charge, PCX 150 2013

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 5:35 am
by Oyabun
Actually it is fairly easy to diagnose a battery status with a simple multimeter.
First of all you should check battery voltage with everything off on the bike. This should be as a bare minimum around 11.8 volts, and about 13.2 when charged, non-connected. With the ignition key on position, and high beams on, a voltage across the terminals of a heathy battery should not read less than 12.8-12.6 volts.

Switching the multimeter to current measurement, you should read zero current between the battery terminal and the connecting ground cable when the bike is powered off. If not, you can start looking for the current drain by eliminating the suspective elements one by one.

With the engine running one should read about 13.6-14.2 volts, on the battery terminals. Below or above these means the charging circuit does not operate properly either under- or overcharging the battery respectively.