At a red light and it wont change

happyscooter · Post by **happyscooter** » Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:47 pm

Anyone else hate when this happens? you are at a light going left and i guess your weight+bike wont trigger the sensor to make the light change. Theres a few pain in the butt turns in my area that are like this. If i dont get lucky and have someone behind me in a car then the light wont change.

Urbanian · Post by **Urbanian** » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:45 pm

Depending on local law, you may be able to proceed legally through the stuck red light. Here in Missouri the law says if you are riding a vehicle too small to trip the sensor, after you wait for a reasonable length of time, it is legal to proceed as though you were at a flashing red. I’ve only gone through a red like this one time (and rather smugly, too).

C-Note · Post by **C-Note** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:51 pm

happyscooter wrote:Anyone else hate when this happens? you are at a light going left and i guess your weight+bike wont trigger the sensor to make the light change. Theres a few pain in the butt turns in my area that are like this. If i dont get lucky and have someone behind me in a car then the light wont change.

I have ran into this issue too here in Illinois.

maddiedog · Post by **maddiedog** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:32 pm

Here's an article on it, listing a few other states where it's legal as well: http://www.examiner.com/article/three-s ... red-lights

The bill is still pending in GA: http://www1.legis.ga.gov/legis/2011_12/ ... 41_a_2.htm

In addition (to make things more confusing in my state), I've seen county regulations for Fulton County (most of Atlanta) that actually say it is legal to do this already after waiting an "appropriate" amount of time, leaving the judgement to the rider...

I often run red lights on my scooter. The sensors here are not sensitive enough to pick up my PCX, so if I get skipped or am waiting more than 30 seconds, I'll usually run it. The cops here don't pull over scooters ever -- it's not worth their trouble.

Urbanian · Post by **Urbanian** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:13 pm

maddiedog wrote:. The cops here don't pull over scooters ever -- it's not worth their trouble.

It's true!

Knowing the law for 50cc is different for 150, I've asked cops on various occasions how much I can fudge between the two. They always tell me they have better things to do than harass scooters. The last one told me if you park wrong, they'll ticket you, but if you're on the move, and are not doing anything really really stoooopid, they ignore you.

you you · Post by **you you** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:07 pm

Excellent. I'm going to use it as an excuse

WhiteNoise · Post by **WhiteNoise** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:51 pm

NY is not on the list. What the hay....count to 10 lookie all ways, then >>>>>>>

Tristik · Post by **Tristik** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:49 am

I've had to make use of the law in WI a ton since I got my scoot. Well over half of the lights in my area are triggered. Stop for 30 seconds, no traffic? Zoooooom

haildamage · Post by **haildamage** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:01 am

check you local laws as has been stated.

technically the light should legally be considered as malfunctioning in such situations. i think that once you have waited long enough to be sure at an unfamiliar light, you should go on through. once the light is familiar, you should go through sooner. from my experience with most cops, if i were pulled over for it and polite/ respectful, they would probably be reasonable. if you do run into an unreasonable cop, sign the ticket and go to court. then insist on an actual TRIAL if the judge so much as asks you to pay court costs (its possible in my state at least). it will never go to trial as the courts will be too busy.

here in japan they have buttons you can push to trip the signal. they need to start putting those in in the US!

sendler2112 · Post by **sendler2112** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:37 pm

I have one deserted light on an off ramp I have to consider as malfunctioning almost every night on my way home. If there is no car coming up behind to trip the sensor, I am forced to run it.

EddieC · Post by **EddieC** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:46 pm

Have u guys never heard of magnets? Lights have a magnetic loop that detects the electrical system of a car. When there is as disturbance in the magnetic field it trips the sensor to change the light. There are two ways of helping this happen:

1. Place strong neodymium magnets on your forks, side stand, center stand, etc. the side stand is a good one because you can brig it even lower to the ground to trip the light.

2. Spike your electrical system... Stop the engine and restart.

you you · Post by **you you** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:17 pm

EddieC wrote:Have u guys never heard of magnets? Lights have a magnetic loop that detects the electrical system of a car. When there is as disturbance in the magnetic field it trips the sensor to change the light. There are two ways of helping this happen:

1. Place strong neodymium magnets on your forks, side stand, center stand, etc. the side stand is a good one because you can brig it even lower to the ground to trip the light.

2. Spike your electrical system... Stop the engine and restart.

I've heard of Magnets

Alibally · Post by **Alibally** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:15 pm

qed wrote:
EddieC wrote:Have u guys never heard of magnets? Lights have a magnetic loop that detects the electrical system of a car. When there is as disturbance in the magnetic field it trips the sensor to change the light. There are two ways of helping this happen:

1. Place strong neodymium magnets on your forks, side stand, center stand, etc. the side stand is a good one because you can brig it even lower to the ground to trip the light.

2. Spike your electrical system... Stop the engine and restart.
I've heard of Magnets

Metal and sticky

Not brown and sticky, that's a stick.

haildamage · Post by **haildamage** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:24 pm

EddieC wrote:Have u guys never heard of magnets? Lights have a magnetic loop that detects the electrical system of a car. When there is as disturbance in the magnetic field it trips the sensor to change the light. There are two ways of helping this happen:

1. Place strong neodymium magnets on your forks, side stand, center stand, etc. the side stand is a good one because you can brig it even lower to the ground to trip the light.

2. Spike your electrical system... Stop the engine and restart.

have you tried this? does it work?

such gadgets and techniques are often discussed when this issue comes up on forums. from what i have read, nothing really works consistantly.

EddieC · Post by **EddieC** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:59 pm

there was always that ONE light that would never change... and I used to return from work at 2 in the morning... Since I put the magnets on, I've NEVER had a problem... There are a couple other lights its helped with too... In my experience it works like a charm

haildamage · Post by **haildamage** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:33 pm

EddieC wrote:there was always that ONE light that would never change... and I used to return from work at 2 in the morning... Since I put the magnets on, I've NEVER had a problem... There are a couple other lights its helped with too... In my experience it works like a charm

cool, could you tell us more about which magnets you are using and where they are mounted?

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