Givi/Kappa Monolock Mount Drill Holes

figurehead71 · Post by **figurehead71** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:23 am

After some advice from anyone (and I am sure there are quite a few on here) that has installed a Givi E231 bracket.

I installed it with minimal fuss a few days ago (even managed not to crack the tail plastics) however with having to drill out the holes for the overpriced bracket to go into I am left with a problem I am sure you all now have.....

Ugliness.

It has to be nigh on impossible to be able to drill holes the exact diameter (and ovalised shape) of the bracket fixing, therefore after drilling and mounting you are left with four ugly drilled holes surrounding the base of each of the bracket "legs"

The cheap ass Givi E231 does not come with any covers for the holes to tidy up the installation, and I am wondering if anyone has utilised any good ideas for two reasons...

- Aesthetics
- Waterproofing (worried with the holes now water can run through the metal plate under the tail plastics and enter into the tail light wiring loom.

I had thought about perhaps some flexible waterproof sealant of some kind, like roof guttering sealant piped around the leg of each of the brackets, but this would obviously need reapplying if ever I needed to disassemble the rear of the PCX for any reason. Or maybe anyone knows of suitably sized rubber grommets?

Appreciate any ideas/solutions anyone has with their install.

rich666 · Post by **rich666** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:23 pm

black silicone hose the right diameter cut to length and then slide it over the bracket mounts and make sure it's a snug fit.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Silicone-Vacu ... 43ab7edf78

C-Note · Post by **C-Note** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:51 pm

figurehead71 wrote:After some advice from anyone (and I am sure there are quite a few on here) that has installed a Givi E231 bracket.

I installed it with minimal fuss a few days ago (even managed not to crack the tail plastics) however with having to drill out the holes for the overpriced bracket to go into I am left with a problem I am sure you all now have.....

Ugliness.

It has to be nigh on impossible to be able to drill holes the exact diameter (and ovalised shape) of the bracket fixing, therefore after drilling and mounting you are left with four ugly drilled holes surrounding the base of each of the bracket "legs"

The cheap ass Givi E231 does not come with any covers for the holes to tidy up the installation, and I am wondering if anyone has utilised any good ideas for two reasons...

- Aesthetics
- Waterproofing (worried with the holes now water can run through the metal plate under the tail plastics and enter into the tail light wiring loom.

I had thought about perhaps some flexible waterproof sealant of some kind, like roof guttering sealant piped around the leg of each of the brackets, but this would obviously need reapplying if ever I needed to disassemble the rear of the PCX for any reason. Or maybe anyone knows of suitably sized rubber grommets?

Appreciate any ideas/solutions anyone has with their install.

I have the Honda box installed on my PCX. The holes in the plastic tail piece were fashioned using a high speed Dremel tool (drilling is impossible). Anyway, there are oversized, thick rubber washers that cover the holes. They are soft enough that they conform to the contour of the tail cover and look pretty good. The material is like a foam rubber with a bit more substance to it.

I don't have any suggestion to offer of the top, but something along what I have described would works. I could take a pic of mine and post it if you like.

C-Note · Post by **C-Note** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:03 pm

Like this ==>

figurehead71 · Post by **figurehead71** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:21 pm

Thanks for the responses guys.

@C-Note...come to think of it, when I was first looking at PCX's a second hand one in the Honda Dealer had a top box mount fitted, I remember looking at it and it having what looked like compressed foam over each leg. If it is of no trouble I would not mind a picture for reference, thanks for offering.

Why Givi don't include anything with their mounts I do not know, especially considering how overpriced they are for what they are, there again they have got you as they are proprietary.

So I guess I will measure the diameter of each of the mount legs, and get some foam/rubber stuff like you have pictured with an internal diameter the same as the legs.

Question is anyone know what I am googling for?!

BTW..drilling is possible without a dremel, mine was done with an SDS drill! On low speed setting. Instruction sheet suggested a 17mm Drill bit, I only had a 16 and a 19mm...used the 16..way too small....even the 19mm was! I had to still shave with a file to get a good fit.

Once I find out what the foam/rubber tubing is called, onto the next project...12V power socket installation.

Alibally · Post by **Alibally** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:47 pm

I used to drill and cut oval holes in rear wings of new Mercs when they had electric aerials. You just need a decent hole cutter and a round file.

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WhiteNoise · Post by **WhiteNoise** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:25 am

Hmmm...figurehead, perhaps look here: http://www.midatlanticrubber.com/about.htm
Looking for the "right" bits can be a challenge, good luck finding the "ezy on/ezy off"

Cracksta · Post by **Cracksta** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:32 am

thanks for the heads up, waiting for my cheap ass 17mm drill bit but sounds like i need to file it down a bit more.

Hopefully you find the right sealant as I will be look for some too.

maddiedog · Post by **maddiedog** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:17 am

At hardware stores in the US (Home Depot and Lowes), they sell neoprene washers that you could put under the fasteners to cover and to seal the holes...

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/catalog ... SEARCH+ALL

The images are all generic on that page, but they come in all sorts of inner and outer diameters.

Cracksta · Post by **Cracksta** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:07 am

my cheap ass drill bit didnt arrive, so requested for a refund and ordered a different one. Bought a dremel for other stuff but will use this to widen the hole when I manage to start on mine.

One question though, the silicone hose above, which one do i need? internal diameter to be 16mm? or shall i order it after i fitted mine incase i sand too much?

thanks

maddiedog · Post by **maddiedog** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:34 am

I wouldn't order it -- go to the store, bring the bolt, and get the size that has the right inner diameter. Outer diameter doesn't matter too much, since it'll just stick out it the outer diameter is large. The inner diameter is the important measurement...

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