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Parking - Should center stand/parking brake always be used?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:18 am
by romnation
Should the center stand and parking brake always be used when parallel parking between cars? What provides the most stability for preventing the bike from being knocked over.

Re: Parking - Should center stand/parking brake always be us

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:02 am
by Jge64
The center stand.......most stable....

Re: Parking - Should center stand/parking brake always be us

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:29 am
by Medicpcx
Always use centre stand strongest, safest and uses the least room. Side stand should only be used very briefly only for example whilst shutting garage or gate behind you.

Re: Parking - Should center stand/parking brake always be us

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:43 am
by kramnala58
For the early models (2011, 2012?), only use the center stand if you absolutely must as there was a design defect in the mount. There is a weak spot and using the center stand could cause the motor block to crack. There are other references to this on the forum.

Re: Parking - Should center stand/parking brake always be us

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:06 am
by JustPassinThru
kramnala58 wrote:For the early models (2011, 2012?), only use the center stand if you absolutely must as there was a design defect in the mount. There is a weak spot and using the center stand could cause the motor block to crack. There are other references to this on the forum.
I think that was only in cases of high weights being put on the machine and jostled about, i.e. a midsized American rider. Since the problem was noted here, first, I'm guessing they had few problems with lighter, smaller Asian users climbing aboard.

Or that they didn't do that. I know I never have. Even on conventional motorcycles with tailboxes, I'll take it off the center stand, put it on the side stand and throw a leg over. And NEVER put full weight on it until it's taken OFF the stand, by bringing it full upright.

I remember test-riding a BMW R1200GT that I later bought, ten years ago. The salesman, an older guy who was GM/owner of the small dealership, advised me to climb on while the big, heavy, tall bike was on the centerstand. I did, and did NOT like how the assembly flexed under the combined weight of 800-plus pounds.

On the PCX, I start it on the center stand, let it warm up for about a minute, push it off, and then, holding the bars, put one leg through and get rolling.

Re: Parking - Should center stand/parking brake always be us

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:52 am
by gn2
Depends on the ground.
Slope and surface play a big part in determining how best to park.
Level ground, centre stand is better
Slope, side stand is usually better uness the scooter can be parked fully nose uphill with no sideways lean.
Always make sure the side stand is on the downhill side and if the slope is steep park at an angle nose uphill.
If its very steep use a chock or kerb or parking brake.
NEVER park nose downhill on either stand.
Loose or soft surface sidestand is usually better but use a puck under the foot to spread the load.

Re: Parking - Should center stand/parking brake always be us

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:58 am
by k2apache6.0
BUT surely if you use the center stand the parking brake is redundant since the rear wheel is off the ground, jus sayin

Re: Parking - Should center stand/parking brake always be us

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:17 pm
by PCX150Rider
The parking brake is very useful if you decide to use the side stand in very windy conditions or if you think it could get bumped into by a passerby if parked in an area with a lot of pedestrian traffic. ;)

Re: Parking - Should center stand/parking brake always be us

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:21 am
by easyrider
gn2 wrote:Depends on the ground.
Slope and surface play a big part in determining how best to park.
Level ground, centre stand is better
Slope, side stand is usually better uness the scooter can be parked fully nose uphill with no sideways lean.
Always make sure the side stand is on the downhill side and if the slope is steep park at an angle nose uphill.
If its very steep use a chock or kerb or parking brake.
NEVER park nose downhill on either stand.
Loose or soft surface sidestand is usually better but use a puck under the foot to spread the load.
X2

Re: Parking - Should center stand/parking brake always be us

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:48 pm
by romnation
Is there a reason that center stand should be used over side stand on this scooter in particular? Most of the stuff I read on other motorcycle/scooter forums, the general consensus seems to be to use the side stand.

Re: Parking - Should center stand/parking brake always be us

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:35 pm
by PCX150Rider
I always put my scooter on the center stand when I'm going to start it from cold. Sometimes the rear wheel turns a bit on scooters when the revs are higher as they warm up from cold starts. Once they idle down they don't tend to spin so much.

Half the time I use the side stand and half the time I use the center stand when I park it. It depends on ground surface conditions and whether or not I'm going to get back on it soon or not.

That said on a warm start. . .or if I just got off the scoot for a few minutes and got back on. . .I would start the scooter sitting on it with the side stand up. Then twist and go. . ..

Some scooters will run with the side stand down but not a good idea. If the revs are too high the clutch will engage and the scoot will go down resulting in broken turn signals, levers, panels, and other uglyness. The PCX has a switch in the side stand to cut out the motor when it's in the down position which is a good thing. :geek:

Re: Parking - Should center stand/parking brake always be us

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:20 pm
by JustPassinThru
romnation wrote:Is there a reason that center stand should be used over side stand on this scooter in particular? Most of the stuff I read on other motorcycle/scooter forums, the general consensus seems to be to use the side stand.
Scooters in general. On a conventional motorcycle, you can park it in gear and it won't roll off the side stand. Of course it's relatively easy to tip over; but that's another issue. The side stand offers easy dismounting and parking - and with most modern bikes, it's the only choice, since most makers don't offer a centerstand on most models.

On a scooter the rear wheel freewheels. Yes, there's the brake; but unless you test it every time you're not going to be sure.

Also, a tip-over onto all that plastic, is going to be more expensive.

Re: Parking - Should center stand/parking brake always be us

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:33 am
by hikari2763
Honestly I rarely use the parking brake with the kickstand as I only use it when I am getting off and back on relatively quickly on flat ground, so it just doesn't get used much.

Most of the time, I am using the center stand with the steering lock without the parking brake. It takes up less space, doesn't take up any more time, your rear wheel isn't touching the ground to roll and the steering lock prevents someone from just rolling the thing away, if they are gonna steal it they are gonna need two guys and a truck at least.

The bike is so short that the kickstand isn't really needed for getting on and off, and the bike is super light so putting it on the center stand takes no effort. I don't really get why they even included a kickstand but, I might be missing something I suppose.

Re: Parking - Should center stand/parking brake always be us

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:04 am
by gn2
hikari2763 wrote:I don't really get why they even included a kickstand but, I might be missing something I suppose.
Generally increases parking options and makes for more stable parking on a slope.

And on the PCX, it gives you something to use when the centre stand mounts break off.

Re: Parking - Should center stand/parking brake always be us

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:30 pm
by Fizzy Rascal
gn2 wrote:

And on the PCX, it gives you something to use when the centre stand mounts break off.
:D