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I wana start my PCX without to use to pull the rear break lever. Anybody know a trick?

I use a trick to kill off the side-stand with this very useful YouTube video right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfSJAnt3-dE

Wow...brilliant idea, I think everyone should do this...cannot think why Honda ever fitted such a thing.

Richard wrote:cannot think why Honda ever fitted such a thing.

Its because the drive can't be placed in neutral.
If your scooter is sitting on the side stand with the engine running and someone blips the throttle, the scooter shoots forward and falls over.
Not just Honda, I believe its fitted to all CVT scooters.
Peugeot has a clever variation which allows you to start up and idle with the sidestand down but prevents the throttle working.

[quote="onemac"]I wana start my PCX without to use to pull the rear break lever. Anybody know a trick?

/quote]

why do you want to start without pulling the lever? It is because you want to burn rubber and make a squealing noise as you dart away from intersections, etc? When I was a kid that was what all the young bloods did in their big 8 cylinder cars--almost all car had 8 in those days, seems to me.

Please, say it isn't so.

gn2 wrote:Peugeot has a clever variation which allows you to start up and idle with the sidestand down but prevents the throttle working.

I like that better!

Those "kill" features are generally termed "lawyer parts". While they may be good ideas, they are also subject to malfing and are generally annoying to riders of a bit more than half a brain. I leave them alone, myself, unless they cause trouble, then I bypass them or otherwise disable them. The side-stand solution is simple as I'm sure the brake lever is, as well. Get a manual and look at the wiring diagram for the solution to the brake lever (unless Honda are clever and have the "kill" integrated into the ECM).

gn2 wrote:

Richard wrote:cannot think why Honda ever fitted such a thing.

Its because the drive can't be placed in neutral.
If your scooter is sitting on the side stand with the engine running and someone blips the throttle, the scooter shoots forward and falls over.
Not just Honda, I believe its fitted to all CVT scooters.
Peugeot has a clever variation which allows you to start up and idle with the sidestand down but prevents the throttle working.

Guess my sarcasm didn't make it across Hadrians Wall.

Richard wrote:

gn2 wrote:

Richard wrote:cannot think why Honda ever fitted such a thing.

Its because the drive can't be placed in neutral.
If your scooter is sitting on the side stand with the engine running and someone blips the throttle, the scooter shoots forward and falls over.
Not just Honda, I believe its fitted to all CVT scooters.
Peugeot has a clever variation which allows you to start up and idle with the sidestand down but prevents the throttle working.

Guess my sarcasm didn't make it across Hadrians Wall.

GN2 sense of humour bypass switch is working perfectly.

Sorry, my sidestand was down.....

gn2 wrote:Sorry, my sidestand was down.....

Just a bit of throttling needed then

onemac wrote:I wana start my PCX without to use to pull the rear break lever. Anybody know a trick?

I know a trick - I can leave the rear brake lever alone and still start my PCX - and I bet everyone else here with a PCX can do the trick too - anyone care to guess my trick?

gn2 wrote:

Richard wrote:cannot think why Honda ever fitted such a thing.

Its because the drive can't be placed in neutral.
If your scooter is sitting on the side stand with the engine running and someone blips the throttle, the scooter shoots forward and falls over.
Not just Honda, I believe its fitted to all CVT scooters.
Peugeot has a clever variation which allows you to start up and idle with the sidestand down but prevents the throttle working.

Many if not most, but not all. My Kymco People 150 did not have a side-stand kill switch. And I'm fairly certain my Yamaha Vino didn't either (of course, it didn't have a side-stand )

It's a common safety feature on most brands of motorcycle (Harley being one exception I know of) to have a kill switch on the side-stand that grounds the ignition circuit while the vehicle is in gear and the clutch lever is disengaged. This is just a carry-over since, as you said, a scooter has no manual clutch and no real neutral.

Anyway, to the OP, if you disable any of the ignition/starting system interupts on your scooter and you eventually sell the vehicle, you'd better be damn well sure you either get them back to working order, or make the new owner aware, in writing, what modifications were made. If the buyer gets hurt or damages the scoot because you were too lazy to pull a brake lever, and you have no documentation otherwise, that's on you.

Richard wrote:

gn2 wrote:

Richard wrote:cannot think why Honda ever fitted such a thing.

Its because the drive can't be placed in neutral.
If your scooter is sitting on the side stand with the engine running and someone blips the throttle, the scooter shoots forward and falls over.
Not just Honda, I believe its fitted to all CVT scooters.
Peugeot has a clever variation which allows you to start up and idle with the sidestand down but prevents the throttle working.

Guess my sarcasm didn't make it across Hadrians Wall.

It made it across the Atlantic.

gn2 wrote:Sorry, my sidestand was down.....

There's a Scooter girl thread on Modern Vespa if you need a little help with that.

GatorGreg wrote:

onemac wrote:I wana start my PCX without to use to pull the rear break lever. Anybody know a trick?

I know a trick - I can leave the rear brake lever alone and still start my PCX - and I bet everyone else here with a PCX can do the trick too - anyone care to guess my trick?

Might it have something to do with the front lever?

honkerman wrote:

GatorGreg wrote:

onemac wrote:I wana start my PCX without to use to pull the rear break lever. Anybody know a trick?

I know a trick - I can leave the rear brake lever alone and still start my PCX - and I bet everyone else here with a PCX can do the trick too - anyone care to guess my trick?

Might it have something to do with the front lever?

ding ding ding you got it!

Just done it and it is awesome ;-) Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDQVBQQM_tI



Remove kill switch of the kickstand and left leaver. Simple and very useful for any Honda PCX 125/150 Rider.

onemac wrote:Just done it and it is awesome ;-) Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDQVBQQM_tI



Remove kill switch of the kickstand and left leaver. Simple and very useful for any Honda PCX 125/150 Rider.

Awesome? You're from the UK ffs

Even West Coast North Americans have discovered one or two more adjectives.

you you wrote:

onemac wrote:Just done it and it is awesome ;-) Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDQVBQQM_tI



Remove kill switch of the kickstand and left leaver. Simple and very useful for any Honda PCX 125/150 Rider.

Awesome? You're from the UK ffs

Even West Coast North Americans have discovered one or two more adjectives.

Whilst typing this I realised that I don't know what the collective noun for people from the USA is in particular. Anyone?

so...you've just proven you are too lazy to move...one finger...Congratulations.