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[Tom192]

just redone my cbt, how time flies! Opted to do it on a geared bike as I really need to get on with doing my test, so ended up on a Yamaha ybr125, the PCX was like a magic carpet on the way home, why anyone would want gears is beyond me!

Good day though

[iceman]

My CBT renewal is due Nov but I may take it earlier to save doing it in poor weather. Not sure whether to go for level 1 or full licence or sick with CBT.
Two friends at work soon migrated from scooters to 125 bikes and now one has passed his full test and the other is soon to do his off-road/on-road. Both would never go back to scooters as they much prefer geared bikes.
They also feel they are much safer as they have better brakes and much wider rim wheels. Me - I like the PCX for simplicity.

[you you]

My CBT renewal is due Nov but I may take it earlier to save doing it in poor weather. Not sure whether to go for level 1 or full licence or sick with CBT.
Two friends at work soon migrated from scooters to 125 bikes and now one has passed his full test and the other is soon to do his off-road/on-road. Both would never go back to scooters as they much prefer geared bikes.
They also feel they are much safer as they have better brakes and much wider rim wheels. Me - I like the PCX for simplicity.

They might feel different once they have more experience under their belts.

[iceman]

My CBT renewal is due Nov but I may take it earlier to save doing it in poor weather. Not sure whether to go for level 1 or full licence or sick with CBT.
Two friends at work soon migrated from scooters to 125 bikes and now one has passed his full test and the other is soon to do his off-road/on-road. Both would never go back to scooters as they much prefer geared bikes.
They also feel they are much safer as they have better brakes and much wider rim wheels. Me - I like the PCX for simplicity.

They might feel different once they have more experience under their belts.

They've been riding geared bikes for over a year - and have not changed their minds. But it seems the brake/tyre width is true enough - many geared bikes of higher cc have good dual disk brakes and very wide tyres compared to scooters. The guy that just passed his full licence was riding a 125 on CBT for 1 yr+, and he says soon as he got on a 600cc he felt much safer on corners and when braking.

[Valiant]

They've been riding geared bikes for over a year - and have not changed their minds. But it seems the brake/tyre width is true enough - many geared bikes of higher cc have good dual disk brakes and very wide tyres compared to scooters. The guy that just passed his full licence was riding a 125 on CBT for 1 yr+, and he says soon as he got on a 600cc he felt much safer on corners and when braking.

Strange statement. The larger engine bikes are always heavier, so you'd think that would actually make it harder to stop.

When braking, I don't really feel like my stopping distance is limited by my brakes, but rather the massive weight that still wants to keep moving forward versus my tire traction. If I don't have enough traction, one of my tires will skid and I will fall over like a twat.

IMO, super strong sticky brakes makes it easier to over squeeze and cause a slideout:

[iceman]

Didn't enjoy watching that - even before the accident itself. So, what did he do - pull too hard on the front brake rather than the rear?
I still use both PCX brakes to some extent as the rear does not seem to do enough without the front aiding it (allowing for using the rear to start slow braking). When slowed down and approaching lights or other vehicles, pressing gently on the front slows the bike down nicely, pressing even more on the rear does not seem to work as nice for me, even with so called CBS. Wonder if my brakes are perfectly adjusted.

[Valiant]

From the description, it was his first time riding the CBR600, coming from a Kawasaki Ninja 250R. Evidently the brakes were MUCH stronger on the bigger bike, so he squeezed it as hard as he usually would, and went down in a hurry.

I was wondering much the same about my PCX rear brakes, as even squeezing it fully wouldn't come close to "stopping" the scooter. But giving it some thought, I'd imagine it's like that by design in order to prevent a rear tire skid. It's probably meant to be used together with both brakes. Not quite ABS, but I'd imagine the purpose is so that you wouldn't slide your rear tire even if you slam on both brakes in a panic stop. I would say it works perfectly, as the rear brake would put the weight on the front tire, while the front tire actually stops the PCX.

[Tom192]

That's exactly what I did sat before Xmas on the pcx! Thankfully I was only doing 20mph! Horrible feeling