To Go Synthetic or Not???

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To Go Synthetic or Not???

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First off I'm new to the site and thanks so much for having me! I purchased a 2015 PCX 150 Pearl Jasmine White and I understand the whole break-in gig with the oil... Plans are to stick strictly with the maintenance schedule. I won't more than likely have 600 miles on mine at the end of the month so I plan on changing the oil then and again when I hit 600. My question is, should I go synthetic and if so, what brand/viscosity should I use? Also, I live in Ponchatoula, Louisiana...so, high humidity and hot for the better part of the year! Thanks for any input on the matter! (Mucho Grassyass!)
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I get mine next week and will run the oil in it for a month or two, and chsnge it to synthetic… Why not? Mobil 1 is cheap stuff and it works well. Then chg every 6-8 months or so.
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Thank you sir! They mentioned at the dealership that it needed to be oil for motorcycles (like they sale)...
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Mobil 1 10w40 MC oil on Amazon.
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Manual calls for 10W30, I'd suggest sticking with it.
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ScootRush wrote:Thank you sir! They mentioned at the dealership that it needed to be oil for motorcycles (like they sale)...
You have just opened up the can of worms and now this thread will be 10 pages long arguing over oil. These bikes do not have a wet clutch so they do not need or call for motorcycle oil with friction modifiers for wet clutches. But it would never make a bit of difference after 200,000 miles if you did. Changing the brand of oil does not make the bike vibrate or oscillate as some have stated. I ride a lot of miles and have to change oil 4 times a year so I use what is handy. Mobil 1 5W40 automotive oil out of the pump at work. Synthetic is better.
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The hitchhikers guide short answer would be - synthetic after initial 600 miles, 4-stroke, 10w-30 (or 10w40 for hotter climates) - that about covers it (just never use 2-stroke, ever!) - and always carry a towel and babel fish with you on your journey.
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iceman wrote:The hitchhikers guide short answer would be - synthetic after initial 600 miles, 4-stroke, 10w-30 (or 10w40 for hotter climates) - that about covers it (just never use 2-stroke, ever!) - and always carry a towel and babel fish with you on your journey.
Exactly, IMO, on vehicle forums there are only 3 subjects That go 10 pages with no real answer, oil changes, best wax, and break-in....... LOL

I'll use 10 40
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My 2015 PCX125 will soon need its first oil change. Looked at the Honda owners manual and it says the following: "Recommended engine oil - Honda 4 stroke motorcycle oil. API service classification SG or higher excluding oils marked as "energy conserving" or "resource conserving", SAE 10W-30, JASO T 903 standard MB.

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So find some Mobil 1 full synthetic 10-30w and call it a day. They do have some that fits your needs. After 600 miles go full synthetic and your scooter will last a long time. I would be surprised if most of us on this forum DIDN'T use full synthetic. Your choice, but single cylinderbikes run hotter and work harder than most of the 'big boys' aka motorcycles do so they need lubrication that can handle the heat longer.
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Honda cub wrote: SAE 10W-30, JASO T 903 standard MB.
Dealers never stock that.
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Jge64 wrote:
iceman wrote:The hitchhikers guide short answer would be - synthetic after initial 600 miles, 4-stroke, 10w-30 (or 10w40 for hotter climates) - that about covers it (just never use 2-stroke, ever!) - and always carry a towel and babel fish with you on your journey.
Exactly, IMO, on vehicle forums there are only 3 subjects That go 10 pages with no real answer, oil changes, best wax, and break-in....... LOL

I'll use 10 40

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ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS use the slippy kind of oil, the sticky stuff is no good.
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ScootRush wrote:Thank you sir! They mentioned at the dealership that it needed to be oil for motorcycles (like they sale)...
Your dealer is just trying to make a sale. ;)

Any 10w30, 5w30, 0w30, 10w40, 5w40, 0w40 will all work fine.

Honda calls for 10w30 or 10w40 synthetic blend,
even during break-in. Honda calls for 10w40 in hot weather, and states it's okay down to freezing. If you ride below freezing, use 10w30.


sendler2112 wrote:These bikes do not have a wet clutch so they do not need or call for motorcycle oil with friction modifiers for wet clutches. But it would never make a bit of difference after 200,000 miles if you did. Changing the brand of oil does not make the bike vibrate or oscillate as some have stated. I ride a lot of miles and have to change oil 4 times a year so I use what is handy. Mobil 1 5W40 automotive oil out of the pump at work. Synthetic is better.
This is 100% accurate, and I 2nd the above (I couldn't have put it better). Don't waste your money on motorcycle oil, just use cheap synthetic car oil. I'm currently also using 5w40, because Rotella T synthetic is SUPER cheap in 5w40 and works great in both my V-Strom and PCX.



One thing to keep in mind, when you do use any oil, make sure that it is not "energy conserving" or "resource conserving." You will see that text in the circular specification thing on the back. These have modifiers that aren't good for the PCX's engine. An oil change with them isn't the end of the world, but you shouldn't run your PCX for its lifetime on that kind of oil.
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Hard to find non energy saving in Europe - at least that's what I gained from web sites (manufacturers) as almost all oil up to 10w30 is energy saving to an extent over here.
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iceman wrote:Hard to find non energy saving in Europe - at least that's what I gained from web sites (manufacturers) as almost all oil up to 10w30 is energy saving to an extent over here.
Halfords or Silkolene.
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iceman wrote:Hard to find non energy saving in Europe - at least that's what I gained from web sites (manufacturers) as almost all oil up to 10w30 is energy saving to an extent over here.

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Hi, I'm new to the forum and wanted to say hello. I just past my break-in with 450 miles on the bike. I live in Vegas where it gets brutally hot during the summer. I'll most likely use synthetic oil, seems this will work best for the desert.
I'm enjoying reading these posts and learning a lot about my PCX.
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