Tuning the Forza 300 CVT

sendler2112 · Post by **sendler2112** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:44 am

Greater than 10% increase whatever it is. Must be an exhaust.

Mario · Post by **Mario** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:48 am

I was more thinking of the provided bushing vs the stock one, but not sure

sendler2112 wrote:Greater than 10% increase whatever it is. Must be an exhaust.

sendler2112 · Post by **sendler2112** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:45 am

Who knows what these marketing charts are supposed to be showing. Other than the chart they show their board members of increasing sales from questionable advertising. Like the chart you posted for the aftermarket clutch that showed it increasing the power of the bike. Complete nonsense.

Mario · Post by **Mario** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:21 pm

I agree, its very hard to find out what to take and what to ignore.

sendler2112 wrote:Who knows what these marketing charts are supposed to be showing. Other than the chart they show their board members of increasing sales from questionable advertising. Like the chart you posted for the aftermarket clutch that showed it increasing the power of the bike. Complete nonsense.

Kompact · Post by **Kompact** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:07 am

Would it make sense for me to mix these weights to get both acceleration and top end?

Mario · Post by **Mario** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:36 am

No problem if you mix them 2x3 pieces, the effect is the same as 6x 17g.

Kompact wrote:Would it make sense for me to mix these weights to get both acceleration and top end?

sendler2112 · Post by **sendler2112** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:16 am

Mario wrote:No problem if you mix them 2x3 pieces, the effect is the same as 6x 17g.

Accept then you lose the advantage of the lower starting gear that you get from the sliders. Just use a lighter slider as Mario has.

dasshreddar · Post by **dasshreddar** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:21 am

Kompact wrote:Would it make sense for me to mix these weights to get both acceleration and top end?

If you want better fuel economy use the mix...(no complaints with my 20gS/15gR)
better acceleration use just sliders...
both ways will give the same top end.

robertinino · Post by **robertinino** » Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:15 pm

For my forza 300 I 'd like to try sliding rollers 15 grams at place of 17 grams
What do you think?
thank you
Robert

you you · Post by **you you** » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:17 pm

robertinino wrote:For my forza 300 I 'd like to try sliding rollers 15 grams at place of 17 grams
What do you think?
thank you
Robert

You will most certainly end up with 15g "sliding rollers" rather than 17g.

Mario · Post by **Mario** » Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:26 pm

What is your impression on the 17g sliders?

robertinino wrote:For my forza 300 I 'd like to try sliding rollers 15 grams at place of 17 grams
What do you think?
thank you
Robert

robertinino · Post by **robertinino** » Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:48 pm

I like very much Mario...good accelleration, good top speed....
Did you try the J costa variator?
ciao
R

Mario · Post by **Mario** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:57 am

Still waiting for my J.Costa, ordered it two weeks ago

robertinino wrote:I like very much Mario...good accelleration, good top speed....
Did you try the J costa variator?
ciao
R

Mario · Post by **Mario** » Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:47 am

Arrived

Glad that I did go for the latest J.Costa vario, there are clearly more changes than only the blue sliders.

Looks like the bell has a smoother finish.

The older one.

The hole's for the sliders have a smooth finish now.

The older one.

1,3gram lighter than the white one's.

Beautiful bearing with intergraded graphite reservoirs.

Blackbeard1718 · Post by **Blackbeard1718** » Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:24 pm

OUTSTANDING, MARIO!

CONGRATS!

Looks like J. Costa upped their Game a bit, and made some considerable improvements over the earlier Model. Nice!

Which Rollers did you decide on... 15g or 17g?

Cheers!

BB

Mario · Post by **Mario** » Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:11 pm

Thanks BB

J.Costa decided for me, older model gomes standard with the 17g and this latest model gomes standard with 15,75g.

Blackbeard1718 wrote:OUTSTANDING, MARIO!

CONGRATS!

Looks like J. Costa upped their Game a bit, and made some considerable improvements over the earlier Model. Nice!

Which Rollers did you decide on... 15g or 17g?

Cheers!

BB

Mario · Post by **Mario** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:17 am

Just mounted the J.Costa vario, mounting was a piece of cake and all fits perfectly, didn't need the provided distance ring needed when the vario is rubbing the crankcase behind the vario

Striking detail is that the belt now use the full range of the rear pulley, before there was 5mm left unused, chapeau for J.costa!!

Before with the standard vario,

Did a short test run round the block in the rain, normally the Forza is running without any noticeable vibes but this runs even smoother, pulling forge is improved and for the first time
the rear end break out coming out of a corner

Intuitive it feels that the clutch now may catch/lock faster, something to look at

Soon I will shoot a new video to see the actual results.

Full reach now

Blackbeard1718 · Post by **Blackbeard1718** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:23 am

Looking forward to your Upcoming Video, Mario!

With the Belt going Full Range now, do you think you'll experience BELT SLAP on the top of the Case?

Cheers!

BB

you you · Post by **you you** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:22 pm

Mario wrote:Just mounted the J.Costa vario, mounting was a piece of cake and all fits perfectly, didn't need the provided distance ring needed when the vario is rubbing the crankcase behind the vario

Striking detail is that the belt now use the full range of the rear pulley, before there was 5mm left unused, chapeau for J.costa!!

Before with the standard vario,

Did a short test run round the block in the rain, normally the Forza is running without any noticeable vibes but this runs even smoother, pulling forge is improved and for the first time
the rear end break out coming out of a corner

Intuitive it feels that the clutch now may catch/lock faster, something to look at

Soon I will shoot a new video to see the actual results.

Full reach now

If the rear end is spinning up coming out of corners you might want to think about traction control.

homie · Post by **homie** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:34 pm

for sure it's tuned now... right?

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