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Simple fix: when you are turning on full lock (which will always be at very low speed) just stick your leg out.
Simple fix 2: change the handlebar position

What u just said is the definition of a cramped bike for a "normal sized adult male." Thank you for proving my point.

I have not proven your point at all, you think it cramped after briefly sitting on it in a showroom, I think it is OK after 1,500 miles on the road.
Neither of us is correct, neither of us is wrong, our opinions are merely a guide.
Wonder which one the OP will give more weight to?
If common sense prevails he will test ride a Forza and form his own opinion

It's absolutely ridiculous of me to present facts that are opposite of what u believe. I've riden the Forza many times, and personally I wouldn't buy a bike that the handlebars hit my knees. He should positively take one for a test ride and see if this issue is something he's comfortable with. I have a feeling if someone mentioned a bike u didn't own that has this issue, u'd call it utter shit.

scisor34 wrote:I have a feeling if someone mentioned a bike u didn't own that has this issue, u'd call it utter shit.

You're just being ridiculous now.
You're the one with the knee/hand interface problem, not me.

Hahahahaha

I am 5'10" and I am comfortable on a Burgman 400 with my feet up most of the time, knees not hitting anything. I think each person has to decide whether he feels comfortable on a scooter or not. It is a personal preference thing. As far as prices are concerned, I paid $3700 for a 2006 Burgman 400, which might be considered high by some people but it only had 2 miles on it. There are deals to be had out there on used scooters. Once again, what you choose is up to you. If you are curious about whether you will feel comfortable on a particular scooter, find one and see if you can either test ride one or at least sit on it. Looking at one in a magazine is different than actually seeing one, sitting on it, and taking a test ride. Everyone has an opinion about which one is best in their mind. I did a lot of research on the Burgman 400 and 650 before seeing them up close. I had decided on the 650 until I saw one up close and realized how big it was. Do your research based on the size you think you will need. Then look at reliability ratings and parts availability. Then see one, sit on one, test ride one. You are the one who will be riding it, and maintaining it. Trust your instincts. When you find the right one, you will know it.

I couldn't agree more.

What does riding feet up mean?

novemberdelta wrote:What does riding feet up mean?

In the context of my post it mean ys with both feet on the footboards as opposed to extended with foot either on the ground or in the air which would be foot down.
Think motocross, they stick their inside leg forward for balance.
It is very unusual to get to full lock on the road, anytime you do you're probably going to want your foot off the footboard ready for a quick dab.

gn2 wrote: ready for a quick dab.

Wadda yer mean by that!

DAB wrote:

gn2 wrote: ready for a quick dab.

Wadda yer mean by that!

Isn't it digital audio broadcast or somesuch?

Limanda limanda.....

gn2 wrote:Limanda limanda.....

Too common

gn2 wrote:Limanda limanda.....

Ha Sole

Very interesting read guys, love this thread!!

SportRiderrr wrote:Very interesting read guys, love this thread!!

I like your Ayrton Senna helmet picture!

Sounds like the Forza or a used Burgman 400 or Majesty might be the best solution for a bigger guy. But if the OP is really looking for the absolute minimum bike for the job, but needs a little more scooter than the PCX for under 5K, then maybe the SYM HD200 or a used Reflex could fit the bill. I chose the PCX 150 over the SYM mainly because of the more relaxed riding position, but the SYM definitely has a bit more power for the highway, hills, etc.

The Sym HD200 is really a 170 and at 15hp has similar grunt to a good 125, i.e. not enough.

I ride mine 95 miles p/ day. 70% highway speeds above 55mph. And I haven't had any issues. Though any incline will drastically reduce speed. From a steady 60mph to about 50mph. I'm 6'2" 220lb's