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Re: F a s t Rack

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:34 am
by you you
PKrellner wrote:
gn2 wrote:Epic fail.
I gotta agree with gn2 on this one. Ugly as hell.

It does have a touch of the desktop side panel about it

Re: F a s t Rack

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:59 am
by Honda4me
Looks like a half baked idea. Bungee cord, net, tail pack, even a converted tank bag all better ideas. Plus don't like the seat fixing. Why not just fit a normal rack? or if it's for ad-hoc use use any of the aforementioned.

I'd sooner strap a milk carton than use that but that's just me.

Re: F a s t Rack

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:09 pm
by WhiteNoise
Hey Kermit! I'm curious, are you going to give this rack a try?
Found this too.....Rok Straps! These look like the way-to-go in securing stuff! Anybody try these yet?
Here's a quick demo video:

Re: F a s t Rack

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:13 pm
by WhiteNoise
Hmmm....I can't see the video ^^^^
Can you? Wazz up? :roll:
Okay, never mind. There it is!

Re: F a s t Rack

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:21 pm
by Kermit
I have not yet ordered the Fast Rack...still a bit undecided. I'm looking at the Biker's Friend bags, which are so stiff that they wouldn't need a rack to sit straight on the seat.

I can see the Rok Straps video. I actually sent them a couple of emails a few days ago and have yet to hear back with an answer to my question. On a side note, I was a bit surprised to see them marketing dog leashes made of stretchable/bungee-like material. That seems dangerous to me - what if the dog is pulling hard, and the person accidentally loses their grip? You could put an eye out with that!

Re: F a s t Rack

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:59 am
by Kermit
WhiteNoise, I did go ahead and order the Fast Rack. Will post pics when I receive it.

Re: F a s t Rack

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:14 am
by Darth Emma
WhiteNoise wrote:Hey Kermit! I'm curious, are you going to give this rack a try?
Found this too.....Rok Straps! These look like the way-to-go in securing stuff! Anybody try these yet?

Yep. I use them all the time. I have a couple of sets. They are high-quality and made to NOT scratch the paint like some bungees do.

They make them in different lengths and widths. The ones in the video are these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0014G ... ZQZPWJAWEH

I also have a smaller set (for strapping smaller items). They are shorter and aren't quite as wide as the other set:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008ET ... UTF8&psc=1

Re: F a s t Rack

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:18 am
by maddiedog
Those Rok Straps are cool! I use bungees, which are way less versatile and more likely to fall off. I might have to look into ordering some.

Re: F a s t Rack

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:00 pm
by WhiteNoise
:D Wait! I hear jingling...No, not money! but Santa!
Are ya'll making a list?
Winter is a great time to plan those PCX trimmings! :D Time to plug-in your hat and start thinking!
Grow up? N e v e r! We're Scooter-Kids!

Re: F a s t Rack

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:11 pm
by WhiteNoise
K o o l Kermit! Anxious to hear and see what you share! Hope it works out for you as planned :P

Darth Emma, oh good! You have them :) Recommendations are always better than any old picture or ad. Do you think the wider of these two straps will work with this Fast Rack? Can you tell by looking? Thanks for sharing the links? I just put both items in my Amazon shopping cart.
Santa will probably check there first ;)

Re: F a s t Rack

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:21 pm
by Darth Emma
You just need to be able to get the loop on the RokStrap through the slot on your Fast Rack. It looks to me like they'll work.

Re: F a s t Rack

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:20 pm
by WhiteNoise
8) Good to hear! We'll see what Kermit does :)
In the meantime, I thought I'd toss some loops in the mix

Re: F a s t Rack

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:02 pm
by Mel46
I have the ROK Straps. I am waiting until we park the scooters for the winter. Then I am going to install them so that they will be permanent on the PCX. I will provide pictures when I have completed my experiment. :-) you are welcome to help me with them, Dave.

Re: F a s t Rack

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:57 pm
by maddiedog
Sure Mel. We should go ride soon too, before it gets too cold. Nice day to ride today. :)

Re: F a s t Rack

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:48 pm
by Kermit
I ordered the Fast Rack, and it has arrived. Overall, I kinda dig it, and I will be keeping it.

I had read a review elsewhere that talked about how it was a little rough in places and needed to be filed. I do not find that to be the case at all. The one I received is smooth as a baby's butt, as they say. It's nice and thick, and looks and feels like a high-quality piece of finished metal with "strategically placed" holes in it.

I had very low expectations for the velcro straps and had every intention of buying replacement nylon straps with buckles to replace them...but alas, those velcro strips are far better than I anticipated. They stick very, very well to each other; they just aren't as thick as the velcro I'm accustomed to, and that's why my expectations were low. But they are better than I'm used to. (Note to self: they also stick very, very well to knit sweaters.)

Now for the fit: It is exactly the right size to stiffly hold the sissy bar bag I bought. The straps are nice and snug, with the back one being a lot more snug (won't move at all) on my seat than the front one, but that may very well be because I didn't spend much time trying to tighten the front one. Regardless, the thing will not move. At all. It fits on the PCX seat very nicely. But I will say that I have to push the seat down a bit harder than usual now to get it to latch closed, most likely because I have the back velcro strips going through the latch.

I know many of you would never buy/use one of these in a million years, but that's kind of how I feel about rear trunks on the PCX, and this is a viable alternative. If you don't find it offensive, and you have a need for something like this, I would recommend it.

Here are pics:

Re: F a s t Rack

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:22 pm
by WhiteNoise
Hey Kermit that does look like a perfect fit for your luggage. I'm just wondering if the two straps are enough to hold a full bag. I've been looking closer at the area underneath the seat between the hump bolts and came up with an idea for a tie down point. Using this not-so-familiar piece of hardware http://www.grainger.com/product/Safety- ... s_pp=false would make the tie point. I'm not sure about the size of it or if this would actually work, but here's my thinking. Drill a hole (the size of the pin) through the bridge that lies between the hump bolts, then slip the pin through, and lock the safety on the end. Done. How's that sound? Will this idea work? Need your opinions, I can take it (o: (o;
Thank you so much for the pictures Kermit, greatly appreciated.

Re: F a s t Rack

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:53 pm
by WhiteNoise
This may help my explanation, a pic of my seat underneath (pay no attention to the big bag hooks, this mount would Not be for them) It's the sloppy sketching that counts :P youz guys get the idea right?
Close to where the arrow points is where I'd drill for the pin mount. Did I mention that the pin is stainles steel? SS is the best! Hmm..but one type is better than another, right? Is 18/8 the better of them?
Okay gotta catch some zzzz's....Big Holiday round the bend. Thanks for reading. night ;)

Re: F a s t Rack

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:00 am
by Kermit
WhiteNoise wrote:Hey Kermit that does look like a perfect fit for your luggage. I'm just wondering if the two straps are enough to hold a full bag.
White Noise, maybe we're thinking about this differently, but for me, the two straps that came with the Fast Rack will only hold the Fast Rack...then I would use other luggage straps to hold the bag to the Fast Rack. That seems so basic, though, that I suspect that wasn't really your question. Are you concerned about the rack staying in place with a full bag on it? If that's your question, then here's my answer: the rear strap is super-tight inside the seat latch...it's going nowhere, with or without weight on it. The front strap is snug, too, but not "tight" like the rear strap. I could probably make it tighter...I just wanted to do a quick install to get an idea about whether I wanted to keep the rack or not.

I, too, have been thinking about ways to make the seat work better for luggage. One thought I had was to attach something to the seat bolts themselves. I don't know what that would be, as I have spent zero time looking for something like that, but by using the seat bolts, you would not have to drill a hole through the seat and risk decreasing the integrity/strength of the seat.

Re: F a s t Rack

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:07 am
by WhiteNoise
No, I get it about the rack and "it's" own straps. I was talking about how secure a full bag would be strapped on the rack. By midway you understood what I was trying to say 8)
Now what's your plan on securing your bag to the rack? Velcro or maybe something like the Rok straps or ???? Bunge's (sp?)
Looks like we're on the same page wondering about those seat bolts. They seem to say, "mod me" when I look at them, they have for awhile. There's got to be a way to create a tie point there. So you're thinking that my drilling a hole through that bridge area will weaken the seat pan? Yeah?? Hmmm

Re: F a s t Rack

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:00 am
by sendler2112
I use a "plank" style rack on the pillion seat for my CBR250R. Solo touring bikes ride better when the load is forward and it is more aero which is important on a 13hp bike like the PCX. I have a few different waterproof bags to choose from. The largest one holds 110 liters and 50 pounds of camping gear.
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Of course locking hard storage is even better.
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