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Re: speedometer and odometer stopped working.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:59 pm
by WhiteNoise
Hey Mel, I just remembered that maddiedog provided us with the PCX wiring diagram :) it's right here: http://www.hondapcx.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=771

Re: speedometer and odometer stopped working.

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:56 am
by fungomerry
thanks all, I had already downloaded the wiring diagram and traced them as far as i could and they checked out fine.

the display seemed to start going wrong very soon after my last refuel so maybe the problem is associated with the fuel sensor?

Re: speedometer and odometer stopped working.

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:00 am
by Mel46
How does the fuel sensor affect the speedometer and odometer? I havent followed the diagram all the way through yet, but it would seem to me that you should at least be able to see your old mileage on the odometer.

Re: speedometer and odometer stopped working.

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:12 am
by fungomerry
Mel46 wrote:How does the fuel sensor affect the speedometer and odometer? I havent followed the diagram all the way through yet, but it would seem to me that you should at least be able to see your old mileage on the odometer.
No reason apart from the fact that that fault coincided with a refuel. Also as the digital display also no longer displays fuel level

The more I think about it the more I think it is a faulty dashboard.

Re: speedometer and odometer stopped working.

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:25 am
by iceman
The 2011-13 123 dash is £65 on Ebay - then there is the nice electronic alternative :)

Re: speedometer and odometer stopped working.

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:28 am
by fungomerry
iceman wrote:The 2011-13 123 dash is £65 on Ebay - then there is the nice electronic alternative :)
If it is the dash then I will be saving up for the kitico one :-)

Re: speedometer and odometer stopped working.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:27 am
by fungomerry
Local dealer says that it wont be fixed under warranty as I have missed to services. He wanted £80 just to have a look at the problem :-(

Is Webike the cheapest site to pick up the Kitaco speedo at £225 inc shipping to the UK?

Re: speedometer and odometer stopped working.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:53 pm
by you you
fungomerry wrote:Local dealer says that it wont be fixed under warranty as I have missed to services. He wanted £80 just to have a look at the problem :-(

Is Webike the cheapest site to pick up the Kitaco speedo at £225 inc shipping to the UK?

That's almost 10% of the bikes new price

Re: speedometer and odometer stopped working.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:58 pm
by rebrab842
Its a broken wire somewhere on the loom. I had this problem fixed under warranty so don't know a lot about it.Its something to do with the suspension going up and down and rubbing through the wire .

Re: speedometer and odometer stopped working.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:04 pm
by fungomerry
rebrab842 wrote:Its a broken wire somewhere on the loom. I had this problem fixed under warranty so don't know a lot about it.Its something to do with the suspension going up and down and rubbing through the wire .
Damn, that is depressing as I have no idea how to go about checking that :-(

Can I check the current with a voltmeter where the loom plugs into the dashboard?

Re: speedometer and odometer stopped working.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:14 pm
by rebrab842
Sorry not really sure, it will be one of the wires to the speed sensor ,but you'll still need to take off some of the bodywork to see where it rubs. they told me that the rear suspension moves up and down and chafes the wire causing it to break.

Re: speedometer and odometer stopped working.

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:00 am
by iceman
fungomerry wrote:
rebrab842 wrote:Its a broken wire somewhere on the loom. I had this problem fixed under warranty so don't know a lot about it.Its something to do with the suspension going up and down and rubbing through the wire .
Damn, that is depressing as I have no idea how to go about checking that :-(
Can I check the current with a voltmeter where the loom plugs into the dashboard?
Although you may be able to spot where the problem is by removing panels, a better way to check end-end continuity is to remove the battery (don't want any shorts!) and with panels removed, check using the ohm (resistance measurement) on a meter one end to other - if the wiring loom and diagram makes sense. May be a lot of work not knowing where things are routed, but once found, you may be able to lay a new wire in for next to nothing.

Re: speedometer and odometer stopped working.

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:02 am
by iceman
fungomerry wrote:
rebrab842 wrote:Its a broken wire somewhere on the loom. I had this problem fixed under warranty so don't know a lot about it.Its something to do with the suspension going up and down and rubbing through the wire .
Damn, that is depressing as I have no idea how to go about checking that :-(
Can I check the current with a voltmeter where the loom plugs into the dashboard?
Although you may be able to spot where the problem is by removing panels, a better way to check end-end continuity is to remove the battery (don't want any shorts!) and with panels removed, check using the ohm (resistance measurement) on a meter one end to other - if the wiring loom and diagram makes sense. May be a lot of work not knowing where things are routed, but once found, you may be able to lay a new wire in for next to nothing. Thanks fungomerry, useful to know this - without 'something' reaching the dash, it acts dumb and shows nothing rather than zero or such.