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loudgonzo wrote:

WhiteNoise wrote:Hello EddieC and thank you for sharing your "how to" with us I had my laptop nearby while doing the job.
May I just suggest that in your opening of 1, 2, 3, etc. steps, that you preface it with something like this:
protect floor if need be (i.e. corrugated cardboard or ?) Place bike on level surface, put bike on centerstand, warm up engine for several minutes, turn off bike "Before starting" the following draining process (then maybe explain why we warm her up first?)
I know a lot of us know all ^ already, but others do not, and some don't look at their manuals at all
I sure do like this section of the forum. It's nice folk like You that use their time and effort in helping the rest of us "get into it" and thus love our bikes even more! Soooo..... Cheers to You All!!

why does the engine have to warm up first? How long should the engine warm up?

gn2 wrote:Two schools of thought on magnetic sump plugs as well, it's not unknown for the magnet to become detached so some people are of the opinion they can cause more damage than an ordinary plug.

gn2 wrote:Wouldn't use one, so its zero detached magnets for me too.
The fact that neither of us has experienced this problem doesn't mean that it won't happen to one of us in future.

gn2 wrote:Nope, haven't bought a newspaper in years.

gn2 wrote:Nope, just someone who gets their news and information from other sources.

Fiah wrote:The scooter does not have a wet clutch like motorcycles do, so you can use any motor oil. That is, you can use the same stuff that you'd use for a car. Honda recommends 10W30 or 10W40. AFAIK, it is never a problem to use a 5W30 or a 0W30 instead of a 10W30. I use Castrol 5W30 (Castrol Edge I think?) because that was the cheapest 30 weight 'synthetic' that I could get my hands on. I say 'synthetic' because few if any oils sold today are truly synthetic. Your Honda shop would probably use 10W40 for motorcycles (specifically, with the JASO MA certification), because that's what they use for every motorcycle. It doesn't really matter, although using a thinner oil (within specification!) will probably result in slightly less fuel consumption. I could tell though after the shop used 10W40 (instead of the 5W30 I used) just before winter, the PCX was a bit more grumpy in the morning after that. Fuel consumption was up too, but you can't really know whether one caused the other.

depthman wrote:

Fiah wrote:The scooter does not have a wet clutch like motorcycles do, so you can use any motor oil. That is, you can use the same stuff that you'd use for a car. Honda recommends 10W30 or 10W40. AFAIK, it is never a problem to use a 5W30 or a 0W30 instead of a 10W30. I use Castrol 5W30 (Castrol Edge I think?) because that was the cheapest 30 weight 'synthetic' that I could get my hands on. I say 'synthetic' because few if any oils sold today are truly synthetic. Your Honda shop would probably use 10W40 for motorcycles (specifically, with the JASO MA certification), because that's what they use for every motorcycle. It doesn't really matter, although using a thinner oil (within specification!) will probably result in slightly less fuel consumption. I could tell though after the shop used 10W40 (instead of the 5W30 I used) just before winter, the PCX was a bit more grumpy in the morning after that. Fuel consumption was up too, but you can't really know whether one caused the other.

The manual says 10W-30, and specifically that "ENERGY CONSERVING" oil is NOT recommended. ALL the 10W-30 I saw at K-Mart is ENERGY CONSERVING, except for the "high mileage" oil. I guess that's fine to use?? I'm about to do my first oil change (2500 miles, dealer did the 500 mile with valve check).

maddiedog wrote:depthman -- it's important to use a synthetic too, Honda only recommends synthetic.

I use the synthetic high-mileage stuff in my Silverwing and my PCX, no issues thus far. I think the stuff I'm using now is Castrol.

maddiedog wrote:Hmm, I'm unsure if using dino oil will make a huge difference in terms of short-term wear... It certainly won't hold up for 5000 miles though, so I'd shorten the maintenance frame with conventional oil to only 3000 miles or so. Usually 5000 miles is pushing it with conventional oil, whereas synthetic is only half worn (if that) at 5000 miles.