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Re: Engine Breaking

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:36 pm
by Duggle
Well, I'm a new guy, I'm not going to say anything (and I didn't care anyway). But I did come to this thread thinking that someone had a baaaaad mechanical issue!

Re: Engine Breaking

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:46 pm
by GeorgeSK
Or was somewhat heavy-handed with the torque wrench...

Re: Engine Breaking

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:46 pm
by you you
WhiteNoise wrote::lol: Yep ^^
....and nothing said by me Or others. Leave it to 2yous, Ffs! What a gas! :lol:

gn2, did you really miss that? :? Slipping?

I am a miserable tw@t :D

Re: Engine Breaking

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:47 pm
by you you
Don't get me started on check book !!

Re: Engine Breaking

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:03 pm
by Urbanfreestyle
Haha! I sadly don't own one!

Re: Engine Breaking

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:10 pm
by you you
Urbanfreestyle wrote:Haha! I sadly don't own one!

You're a good sport

Re: Engine Breaking

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:40 pm
by gn2
Urbanfreestyle wrote:Haha! I sadly don't own one!
No no no no no.

Haha! Sadly, I don't own one.

Grammar, the difference between knowing your shit and knowing you're shit.

Re: Engine Breaking

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:14 am
by you you
gn2 wrote:
Urbanfreestyle wrote:Haha! I sadly don't own one!
No no no no no.

Haha! Sadly, I don't own one.

Grammar, the difference between knowing your shit and knowing you're shit.

My Granma is dead. Thanks for bringing it up

Re: Engine Breaking

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:30 pm
by socoguy78
I know this isn't engine braking, but I had to do a full brake today practicing in a 40mph road. This PCX handled the braking very very well. One of the brakes locked up momentarily, as soon as I heard the squeal, I let go both brakes and reapplied again. The pcx stopped more quickly than the other cars in front of me slamming on their brakes. But I've noticed I'll hear the brake pad or something rubbing against the front wheel when walking the scooter in my quiet garage.

Re: Engine Breaking

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:54 pm
by OriginalRocket
Slickvic wrote:
OriginalRocket wrote:I do not engine brake. I am from the side that believes braking is done by replaceable brake pads and rotors.

That said, I do not live in a hilly area. Illinois is mostly flat.

I was taught to engine brake at the MSF course. It made no sense to me. I've never had a automatic car, so to not burn out a clutch I use my brakes to slow down. I never clutch down to slow down. The OEM fly wheel was still in good condition on my Integra GS-R after 110,000 miles when I upgraded to a stage 1 clutch.
I think you misunderstand the concept. Engine Braking = Coasting.
This has Nothing to do with burning out clutches. What they mean is that instead of grabbing the brakes immediately after letting off the gas, you coast. Let the momentum of the engine slow you down.

1) Let off the gas
2) Coast if possible to slow down.
3) Use brakes if necessary.

Disclaimer: No clutch pads were harmed in the utilization of Engine Braking. ;)
Engine braking is not coasting. Coasting is disengaging from the engine. When you let off the throttle on the PCX it does engine brake due to the CVT Transmission down to about 10 mph. I don't actively use this to slow down down. When there is a red light or a stop sign or some reason that I must stop or slow do I let off the throttle, "coast" for a bit, then use the brakes. Commuting, there is no time for this, its either throttle or brake.

on a side note. I've never had to empty the airbox overflow tube yet on any of my motorcycles. Nothing is ever in it the tube!. PCX has 11,000 miles, my NC700 has 7,000.

Re: Engine Breaking

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:45 pm
by Bash On!
socoguy78 wrote:The pcx stopped more quickly than the other cars in front of me slamming on their brakes.
I worry more about the PCX stopping more quickly than the cars behind me slamming on their brakes.

Re: Engine Breaking

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:15 pm
by Slickvic
OriginalRocket wrote:
Engine braking is not coasting. Coasting is disengaging from the engine. When you let off the throttle on the PCX it does engine brake due to the CVT Transmission down to about 10 mph. I don't actively use this to slow down down. When there is a red light or a stop sign or some reason that I must stop or slow do I let off the throttle, "coast" for a bit, then use the brakes. Commuting, there is no time for this, its either throttle or brake.

on a side note. I've never had to empty the airbox overflow tube yet on any of my motorcycles. Nothing is ever in it the tube!. PCX has 11,000 miles, my NC700 has 7,000.
As a person who has driven many manual transmission cars, I understand that Engine braking is not coasting. I merely used the word "Coasting" to avoid any misunderstanding when letting off the throttle.

I regret even replying to this posting. My bad.

Re: Engine Breaking

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:59 pm
by socoguy78
Slickvic wrote:
OriginalRocket wrote:
Engine braking is not coasting. Coasting is disengaging from the engine. When you let off the throttle on the PCX it does engine brake due to the CVT Transmission down to about 10 mph. I don't actively use this to slow down down. When there is a red light or a stop sign or some reason that I must stop or slow do I let off the throttle, "coast" for a bit, then use the brakes. Commuting, there is no time for this, its either throttle or brake.

on a side note. I've never had to empty the airbox overflow tube yet on any of my motorcycles. Nothing is ever in it the tube!. PCX has 11,000 miles, my NC700 has 7,000.
As a person who has driven many manual transmission cars, I understand that Engine braking is not coasting. I merely used the word "Coasting" to avoid any misunderstanding when letting off the throttle.

I regret even replying to this posting. My bad.
It was just a miscommunication and no harm done. Don't take anything personally and thank you for you replies on this thread.

zach

Re: Engine Breaking

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:04 pm
by socoguy78
Bash On! wrote:
socoguy78 wrote:The pcx stopped more quickly than the other cars in front of me slamming on their brakes.
I worry more about the PCX stopping more quickly than the cars behind me slamming on their brakes.
Very very true. Sometimes I think I might appear to be paranoid always looking around me, and all my mirrors in my car and PCX. There's been many times I had to slam on my brakes in traffic and notice the car behind me might rear end me, so I turn my car to the right or left if there's an emergency lane to pull into and let the car in front of me get rear ended. ha!