Another tire change / Input thread

[homie]

what kind of gorilla can pull a 14" tire off the rim?

Me.
Piece of piss with a decent pair of 450mm tyre levers.

well then you are a better man than me... gorilla

I have a mind to just keep going with the valve adjustment but we have some warmer weather coming
Maybe just space off the air box and squeeeeeeeze in the rear Miche and RIDE!

[Mel46]

I think i will just have the professionals change it.

[WhiteNoise]

Good for you homie, you gave it a go! Better to realize that you're not capable of finishing the job then to hurt yourself or your bike. Sorry to hear about your rim tape damage. I know it took you awhile to get it right.
Mel, me too. I have both front and rear to be changed. I had thought about taking the wheels off myself but I have to watch Some YouTube videos to see if I can. Is the rear tire harder to remove than the front or visa versa, or the same? This would be a first for me.

[homie]

Is the rear tire harder to remove than the front or visa versa, or the same? This would be a first for me.

WhiteNoise - Rear of course, you need no special tools except a breaker bar and some leverage for the axel nut. Surprisingly easy, not like those videos where the guy struggles until he buys a impact tool The front practically falls off. If I had not tried to remove tires from the rims the whole thing would have been done in a couple hours.

The guy at Goodyear didn't even want any money, just wanted me to service my truck at his shop from now on. All in all very good day and cant wait to see how they feel.

[sendler2112]

I've always felt the stock IRCs didn't feel too grippy in the cold and wet,

I replaced my well worn IRC rear at 8,000 with a Michelin City Grip but didn't find there to be any advantage to wet cornering. The IRC's are fine in the wet and the stock front tire is still fine after 16,000 miles. I actually felt the City Grips were a little more prone to coming loose in the back if anything. But I am hoping they last a little longer. Until Michelin offers something like a Pilot Road 4 for these scooters, there is no big advantage in wet traction to be had by switching until you get into something like the IRC Snowtex for cold weather use.

[iceman]

I've always felt the stock IRCs didn't feel too grippy in the cold and wet,

I replaced my well worn IRC rear at 8,000 with a Michelin City Grip but didn't find there to be any advantage to wet cornering. The IRC's are fine in the wet and the stock front tire is still fine after 16,000 miles. I actually felt the City Grips were a little more prone to coming loose in the back if anything.

Wow - after all I've read about the IRC's being bad in wet conditions and the City Grips being so much better, I'm surprised to read you thought there was nothing in it! The rear was fitted the right way (direction arrows)?

[gn2]

The only benefit of City Grips for me was they last longer.

[sendler2112]

after all I've read about the IRC's being bad in wet conditions and the City Grips being so much better, I'm surprised to read you thought there was nothing in it!

Whenever people spend money on an "upgrade" there is a strong psychological predisposition to like the new part better with no real way to test it. A lot of the bad rep that anything with "IRC" printed on it gets comes from the racerboy squids on the Ninja250 ect. forums that just "know" that anything you put on must be better. I will gladly accept all free donations of take off IRC tires for the PCX, CBR250R, or Ninja250. PM me for shipping address. Free tires for life.
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The rear of the PCX does come loose around rolling right hand intersections in the rain but that was the same with either brand of tire. The IRC roadwinner tires on the CBR250R are impeccable in the rain. That is one of their strongest attributes in my opinion. And they last forever. I got 14,000 out of the rear on that bike and the front is still on at 19,000 miles. The Michelin Pilot Road 3 or 4 would be a real upgrade due to the advanced radial construction and multi compound tread which is very smooth over coarse pavement.
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But I will stick with the free, 1,000 mile IRC take offs for now which seem to be in a never ending supply.

[Mel46]

I am sure that it is just in our heads but we found the irc to slip when going around curves, while the City Grip tires held no matter how much the lean. We found this to be true not only on our pcx but also when i had my Burgman. I can't say how it would handle in rain though. We try not to ride in rain.

[sendler2112]

the irc

I thought you had Dunlops on your PCX.

[Mel46]

We have two 2013 pcx150s. The first came with IRC. The second one came with Dunlop. I like the City Grip so much that i switched the back tire on my new one that came with Dunlop. Now both bikes have City Grip on the back, and her front IRC is about to be switched to City Grip as well. My Dunlop front tire holds much better than her IRC ever has, so i will keep it till it runs out of tread.

[WhiteNoise]

Well dang, I'm falling behind the times! Family and life keeping me busy so I plumb forgot to mention I received both front and rear City Grips: Front 90/90/14 and Rear 100/90/14 (stock size).

Here's how they arrived from (online order ) Motorcycle Superstore:

1. Arrived Just Like This!.JPG (102.06 KiB) Viewed 1436 times

AND...I remembered to Check their Born Dates:

3. Checked Born Date 20th week of 2014.JPG (96.36 KiB) Viewed 1436 times

2. Checked Born Date 21st week of 2014.JPG (91.07 KiB) Viewed 1436 times

Now, I'm about to shrink wrap them both for winter storage. I had read it will preserve tire oils, rubber etc. A few said Cardboard wrapped around was enough. I chose this route v v

4. About to Shrink Wrap for Winter Storage To Preserve Rubber.JPG (122.82 KiB) Viewed 1436 times

All this Winter prep is making me sad. I'm already talking to WN in the Garage! Call me Crazy!

[WhiteNoise]

Time passed. Read about this idea. Did it.
Tires wrapped 12/4. Used that ^ large roll of furniture cling wrap (bought from Home Depot) that was left over from my move. Put it to use, again. Love when that happens Then placed cardboard (that came with the tires) between the two tires storing them horizontally one on top of the other (in me basement, off the cement floor).
Not that neatly done but.....it's a wrap!
Sound like a good idea? I wonder

[homie]

You will put them on in the spring?

[WhiteNoise]

Yes dear homie, in zee early Spring. I see you're still up too? I'm getting sleepy