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Re: NC750x DCT
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:37 am
by wei2go

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Re: NC750x DCT
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:50 am
by Steph
Very cool! Nice storage too. Let us know how the DCT performs.
Re: NC750x DCT
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:22 pm
by tbln930
I saw some youtube videos where they had the 750 at 190 kmh and the 700 at 186 kmh top speed. They are both Pretty close. I like fairings and wind protection but that definitely comes at a premium. You probably can add them if desired I imagine.
Very nice bike!
Re: NC750x DCT
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:22 pm
by wei2go
I now have a red NC750x to match my red Honda PCX
I started motorbiking two years ago on scooters, so this is my first "big" bike. I must say, its not as easy to handle as the PCX. I didn't realize how much I tip the bike over when I do a full lock U-turn and have almost dropped the bike a few times already. I severely crushed my right ball sack

trying to hold the bike up between my legs and I struggle to reverse it on the slightest incline.
Once the bike is going, however, everything is a different story. The extra power is incredible. With it being my first bike, I'm glad its a DCT. The first and last time I rode a manual was when I was getting my motorbike license about 7months ago and I don't miss it.
I'm intending on selling my PCX eventually, but every time I go back to it, I marvel at how light and easy it is to ride. As much as I would like to keep both, I really cant. I think I'm going to ride them both for a month before deciding which one to keep
Re: NC750x DCT
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:29 am
by kcpcx
I like the idea of the NC with the DCT and would like to test ride one.
The thing that irks me is that more bikes aren't available with shaft or belt drive.
It's not the end of the world, but it would be nice to have a belt drive like the current BMW F800GT but with Honda mechanicals. Shaft drive is probably a lot more expensive to produce, but I can't imagine belt drive would be much more than chain drive from a manufacturing standpoint.
NC750x DCT with belt drive would be about perfect, I would think, for a hassle free low maintenance all around bike.
I've only driven one DCT car, an Audi A3. The transmission performed brilliantly. If the NC is anything like that, I'm interested.
Re: NC750x DCT
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:08 am
by gn2
Chain drive hassle can be mucch reduced with an automatic chain oiler.
One thing I didn't like about the NC700X DCT when I rode it was the gearchanges happen when you don't expect and often when you don't want them.
Slowing to a stop in aurto mode it bangs down through all the gears which was a complete nuisance.
The 700 engine has a lot of vibration too.
Fortunately Honda have addressed the vibration issue, the NC750 engine is much smoother.
The DCT on the 750 is supposed to be better, but haven't ridden a DCT 750.
Had an extended test of a manual NC750S recently though, if I was to buy an NC it would be a manual 750S, I really liked it.
Re: NC750x DCT
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:02 am
by tbln930
My local Suzuki has a new 2014 Burgman 650 ABS I have been eyeing that is being discounted heavily for long range touring. It is the most comfortable scoot I have been on yet and can stretch my legs out a bit. My only complaint is the weight when you get into these 500-600+ lb bikes and just moving them around the garage. It has the manual shifting as well if one gets the urge and the power windshield and mirrors plus heated grips. 125 mph top speed.
Re: NC750x DCT
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:41 am
by sendler2112
tbln930 wrote:My local Suzuki has a new 2014 Burgman 650 ABS
$11,000.
Re: NC750x DCT
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:48 am
by gn2
UK List price for a Burgman 650 Exec is £8800 ($13500) but they are usually advertised for around £7000 ($10800)
These are on the road (out the door) prices.
Re: NC750x DCT
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:54 am
by tbln930
I am looking at $7500 US plus $300 fees. We pay sales tax at the license office separately and about 6% so $500 more so $8300 ready to ride. That is my offer and we are about $300 apart right now.
Re: NC750x DCT
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:25 pm
by DAB
gn2 wrote:UK List price for a Burgman 650 Exec is £8800 ($13500) but they are usually advertised for around £7000 ($10800)
These are on the road (out the door) prices.
Jeez, no wonder I don't see many on the road. More expensive than my KTM 690!

Re: NC750x DCT
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:00 pm
by gn2
DAB wrote:More expensive than my KTM 690!

Yep, but at least with a Burgman you get comfortable practical transport.
Re: NC750x DCT
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:55 pm
by you you
wei2go wrote:2015-02-18_13-25-11_1.jpg
Can you post some more pictures becuase that doesn't look like a bike you could fall in love with?
All bikes are good though...
Re: NC750x DCT
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:16 pm
by wei2go
So I have ridden this bike for a few days now and made my first adjustment today. The handle bar reach was a bit to much for my liking, so I undid the bolts and pulled the riser bar closer. I then proceeded to try get the controls to a more comfortable position but they seem to use a funny size bolt for that, somewhere between a 8 and 9mm. I gave up. I'll ride it like that tomorrow and see if it works.

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I did manage to use my Honda PCX150 this weekend, for a quick dash to the bakery to get fresh breakfast croissants

Re: NC750x DCT
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:07 pm
by you you
wei2go wrote:So I have ridden this bike for a few days now and made my first adjustment today. The handle bar reach was a bit to much for my liking, so I undid the bolts and pulled the riser bar closer. I then proceeded to try get the controls to a more comfortable position but they seem to use a funny size bolt for that, somewhere between a 8 and 9mm. I gave up. I'll ride it like that tomorrow and see if it works.
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I did manage to use my Honda PCX150 this weekend, for a quick dash to the bakery to get fresh breakfast croissants

I've changed my mind with that shot. That looks really nice
Re: NC750x DCT
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:19 pm
by Monty1952
I have not seen any of the DCT bikes here as they simply don't sell them other than the NM4. Did they move the rear brake up to the left hand or did they leave it down below?
Re: NC750x DCT
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:41 pm
by gn2
The rear brake is still on the right foot, the parking brake is on the left handlebar.
Re: NC750x DCT
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:09 pm
by Sh3p
Very cool looking touring bike. I dig it. This is a new kind of bike for me.
I just got to try a friends BMW with DCT and it was actually really fun, the torque was a little lacking in the shift but if im not mistaken i think thats the whole point. The last thing you want is the bike doing a wheelie just because you had too much torque upon upshift with no handclutch.
I'd also agree that the dual clutch system with syncronizers will likely never be as reliable as a single manual clutch. But for what it is, its pretty cool.
Its like a car sequential manual gearbox for motos.
Re: NC750x DCT
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:20 pm
by wei2go
Why would it not be as reliable? Two clutch systems taking half the load each with much smoother transitions would equal much less wear and tear....
Re: NC750x DCT
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:31 pm
by gn2
Its the ancillaries which power and control the clutches and drive the gearchanges.
Extremely complex electrical/hydraulic/electronic systems which have already been having problems.