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Re: pirelli diablo or michelin tires
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 11:01 am
by fast1075
My bike has nearly 4K miles now. The stock rear tire is wearing, but not yet worn out. The front tire is still in very good condition. I bought a City Grip rear tire to have on hand when the time comes to replace the rear tire.
I chose the Michelin because, like the front stock tire, it is bias ply. My thoughts are that by the time the front tire wears out, it will be time for BOTH tires to be replaced. At that time, I will go with the radial Pirelli on both ends.
It's nice to have a bike that you can buy a SET of tires for, for far less than ONE tire for my Buell. AND, have a bike that goes several thousand miles on a tire. My Buell will destroy a Q3 in 1,500 to 1,800 miles. My 250 Ninja will go 6K or so on a set of Michelin Street Radials unless I take it to a track day or few.
Re: pirelli diablo or michelin tires
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:35 pm
by gn2
The front should easily last till you've worn out the OEM plus two replacement rear tyres.
The Pirelli Diablo Scooter in the PCX sizes isn't radial.
Re: pirelli diablo or michelin tires
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:22 pm
by fast1075
Perhaps Motorcycle Superstore has an incorrect advert. But after some research, I believe you are correct.
Re: pirelli diablo or michelin tires
Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 9:57 am
by MrManH
Hey guys, what are the modifications required to install the same tires as in this picture on a 2015 PCX 150. Looks like the front wheel fairing has to be changed.
Rear 150/70/14
Front 120/70/14
I do like the look of wider tires and I don't find the stock tires to grip the road particularly well so I'm thinking of asking my dealership to install the new tires when it goes for its first oil change.
Re: pirelli diablo or michelin tires
Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 10:51 am
by gn2
That's a photoshop job, it isn't a real scooter.
To build one like that would involve extensive alterations to the frame, engine and CVT.
It wouldn't be a bolt together job, it would involve top level fabrication skills and cost at least four times what the scooter was when new.
To get better grip than standard tyres all you need do is fit Michelin Citygrips in the correct sizes.
Re: pirelli diablo or michelin tires
Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 10:57 am
by MrManH
Haha good to know, when you say correct size you're basically saying matching the OEM IRC dimensions correct?
Re: pirelli diablo or michelin tires
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 7:05 pm
by dog64bull
Mel46 wrote:We put Michelin City Grips on both of our scooters, even my new one that only had 1000 miles. The city grips are really great and hold really well. We wouldn't want to put anything else on them.
Do you think it would be a good idea to have a pirelli front tire with a michelin city grip rear tire?
Re: pirelli diablo or michelin tires
Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 10:02 am
by fish
MikeP wrote:I found that these tires really "stick" to the road. On dry road I can drive more agressive with confidence. On wet roads, the tread pattern wisks water away from the tire contact surfaces well.
When I first put them on the cornering was solid when compared to the stock tires.
You have tread pattern on rears after 40k? And you ride aggressively.
Wow
Re: pirelli diablo or michelin tires
Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 10:04 am
by fish
dog64bull wrote:Mel46 wrote:We put Michelin City Grips on both of our scooters, even my new one that only had 1000 miles. The city grips are really great and hold really well. We wouldn't want to put anything else on them.
Do you think it would be a good idea to have a pirelli front tire with a michelin city grip rear tire?
Pair of Michelins.
My experience after 2 yrs on them.
Fish
Re: pirelli diablo or michelin tires
Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 2:57 pm
by MikeP
fish wrote:MikeP wrote:I found that these tires really "stick" to the road. On dry road I can drive more agressive with confidence. On wet roads, the tread pattern wisks water away from the tire contact surfaces well.
When I first put them on the cornering was solid when compared to the stock tires.
You have tread pattern on rears after 40k? And you ride aggressively.
Wow
I am on my 3rd set.
Re: pirelli diablo or michelin tires
Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 4:39 pm
by ScooteringAbout
gn2 wrote:That's a photoshop job, it isn't a real scooter.
To build one like that would involve extensive alterations to the frame, engine and CVT.
It wouldn't be a bolt together job, it would involve top level fabrication skills and cost at least four times what the scooter was when new.
To get better grip than standard tyres all you need do is fit Michelin Citygrips in the correct sizes.
What he said, rode back yesterday about 30miles in a proper downpour, after a long dry spell, so pretty much the worst time road surface wise. I have a set of citygrips in stock sizes on my 2015 PCX, and not once did they feel out of their depth. Only done 1,040 miles on them but I know I will put another set on when they finally wear out, and I won't mind the expense.
Re: pirelli diablo or michelin tires
Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 11:22 am
by fish
When replacing my destroyed rear Dunlop on my Forza a few weeks ago - we had a conversation about the difficulty of finding the correct size tire in the USA. Only the strange sized Dunlop is the stock size. Any other avail. tire is one size larger or smaller. The young service tech said, "Cool, go with the larger tire. Bigger is better."
When discussing this with the elderly (veteran rider) parts manager - he explained that a larger tire on a stock rim will have a slightly smaller contact area than the smaller stock tire. He drew me a picture to demonstrate how a wider tire is pinched in to fit a stock rim - causing a slightly smaller contact patch w/the road. He said unless I'm a track rider - I'd likely never notice that slight difference.
His ideas made sense to me.
I went with the much more commonly avail. sized tire (1 size bigger than stock) and switched to a Bridgestone Hoop. I've ridden it in the rain & on dry roads on several outings. It performs perfectly for my purposes.
Fish
Re: pirelli diablo or michelin tires
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 2:42 pm
by BenChiew
If one wanted a wider tyre from the original, what are the sizes and models that can go onto stock rims without any mods?