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Re: Hand Guard Protector vs bar end muff - any wrap around o
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:16 am
by DAB
Iceman, just seen the vid. If you are going to try this maybe put the impact bit in and hold in place with some pliers. Then heat the bit, I think this way the end weights will not get so hot.
Re: Hand Guard Protector vs bar end muff - any wrap around o
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 10:03 am
by WhiteNoise
"By Jove, I think He's Got It!"
Now there's a plan iceman

Heat it up! Looks simples? Shame you didn't see this vid before taking action

Why does that Always seem to happen? Ah well, No matter today! cause those suckers are coming O U T and Guards are going O N!

Wah-Hoo!!
This thread Will Need pics!

Re: Hand Guard Protector vs bar end muff - any wrap around o
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 10:37 am
by iceman
Haven't got a blow-torch, and not buying an impact drill for £70, so may stick a lighter to the 'bit' and see what happens. I was considering going to the dealer ans asking them to take a look, spend 5 minutes sorting this ridiculous situation. No need to fix them as tight as this!
Re: Hand Guard Protector vs bar end muff - any wrap around o
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 10:53 am
by WhiteNoise
Why not go to any local mechanics shop, maybe one you use for car? And ask if they will do it for you? Throw them a few bucks. Won't take them that long, right? Do you know anyone with a blow torch? Can you rent one from a Rent a Tool shop? Maybe Home Depot? Just a few thoughts.
I want You to Have those Guards too. They will make you smile and that's a Very Good Thing!

Re: Hand Guard Protector vs bar end muff - any wrap around o
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 10:57 am
by you you
DAB wrote:Iceman, Can't imagine releasing oil will do any good.
Why not?
Re: Hand Guard Protector vs bar end muff - any wrap around o
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 3:31 pm
by DAB
you you wrote:DAB wrote:Iceman, Can't imagine releasing oil will do any good.
Why not?
When I took them off, the screw head was very tight, and the volume required inside the bar to affect the Loctite is, I guess a few cm3. Not sure but the lube may even travel to the centre of the handle bars.
Re: Hand Guard Protector vs bar end muff - any wrap around o
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 6:00 pm
by you you
DAB wrote:you you wrote:DAB wrote:Iceman, Can't imagine releasing oil will do any good.
Why not?
When I took them off, the screw head was very tight, and the volume required inside the bar to affect the Loctite is, I guess a few cm3. Not sure but the lube may even travel to the centre of the handle bars.
Loctite should shock release. That's why I suggested just putting the bit in and clouting it a couple of times. Good practice before using an impact driver. Horse to water.
If it's still not coming off it could be corrosion, hence the releasing oil over an extended period. Diesel is just as good tbh.
Re: Hand Guard Protector vs bar end muff - any wrap around o
Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 12:45 pm
by iceman
It seems the ends of the screws can be drilled out and the bar end slid off - is this true? If so it seems a good way to remove them as I'm going to replace the screws with hex bolts (alan) or security screws - no glue! Also, if the above is valid, can someone advise what size and length bolts are needed to replace the ones I drill out? Thanks.
Re: Hand Guard Protector vs bar end muff - any wrap around o
Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 1:48 pm
by DAB
You will still have to get the rest of the screw out. Wouldn't do it myself.
The bar end weight will slide of though. What guards are you going to get?
Re: Hand Guard Protector vs bar end muff - any wrap around o
Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 2:13 pm
by iceman
DAB wrote:You will still have to get the rest of the screw out. Wouldn't do it myself.
The bar end weight will slide of though. What guards are you going to get?
Not sure about the guard - maybe storm, cheap one off Ebay (wind protection rather than crash) or just a bar to support bar mitts (stop them pressing on the levers).
I was led to believe that with 2/3rd's inch of screw exposed, it's easy to grip with large pliers (half inch jaws) and turn without fear of the thread getting chewed. Also a fair bit of metal exposed to heat up to loosen the loctite without burning the end of the current bar end. Any idea of size of replacement bolt/screw needed? (need to get a spare ready before I try this).