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gn2 wrote:

db22 wrote:My dealer warned me to stay away from ethanol except when the tank is empty and nothing else is available.

The PCX is intended to be used with an ethanol mix of up to 10% (E10) so your dealer is talking shite.

Point noted. Any differences in the engine or fuel injection system between the US and UK models?

db22 wrote:Any differences in the engine or fuel injection system between the US and UK models?

As far as fuel suitability is concerned, none.

In europe, standard fuel can contain upto %5 ethanol mix without being labelled as such, and may soon be allowed to be %10 unlabelled - only issue seems to be with old classic cars. http://www.mag-uk.org/en/campaignsdetail/a6973

My pcx can run e20 not that I do. It runs fine on shell 91 e10..

Almost all of our gas here in the United States has an ethanol mix, by law I think, except for the top of the line high test. Every new vehicle must be able to run on this mix except for those that are high performance vehicles. The manufacturer has the recommendation of fuel type displayed by the gas tank itself and in the owners manual. The little PCX has a recommended fuel of 87 octane USA standard and can run fine on up to a 10% ethanol mix with no ill effects on the engine.

Mel46 wrote:Almost all of our gas here in the United States has an ethanol mix, by law I think, except for the top of the line high test. Every new vehicle must be able to run on this mix except for those that are high performance vehicles. The manufacturer has the recommendation of fuel type displayed by the gas tank itself and in the owners manual. The little PCX has a recommended fuel of 87 octane USA standard and can run fine on up to a 10% ethanol mix with no ill effects on the engine.

Thanks for the clarification -- I'll fill up with 87 octane/10% ethanol, and see how it runs. Just finished my first all-PCX commute week, clocking over 200 miles. The bike handles my rural/urban mix commute with ease. The more I ride it, the more I like it.

db22 wrote:

Mel46 wrote:Almost all of our gas here in the United States has an ethanol mix, by law I think, except for the top of the line high test. Every new vehicle must be able to run on this mix except for those that are high performance vehicles. The manufacturer has the recommendation of fuel type displayed by the gas tank itself and in the owners manual. The little PCX has a recommended fuel of 87 octane USA standard and can run fine on up to a 10% ethanol mix with no ill effects on the engine.

Thanks for the clarification -- I'll fill up with 87 octane/10% ethanol, and see how it runs. Just finished my first all-PCX commute week, clocking over 200 miles. The bike handles my rural/urban mix commute with ease. The more I ride it, the more I like it.

Over time, Ethanol can damage rubber components In older engines; however, newer engines use tubing, o-rings and such that are designed to withstand the effects of ethanol. The only real advantage to ethanol in newer vehicles is better fuel economy (the ethanol serves as little more than filler), but if the cost per gallon is excessively greater than the cost of e10 fuel, you may not be saving anything.

So, that said, you will see a drop in fuel economy, but you will not damage the scooter.

honkerman wrote:The only real advantage to ethanol in newer vehicles is better fuel economy

So, that said, you will see a drop in fuel economy

Confused

Anyone tried e85?