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Re: Question about buying a Forza
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:22 pm
by homie
Good thinking Mike... 2014-4Z
never do it, seen too much greif in here over the years.
4Z 300 or PCX150
go to mirror
check butt size
if big get new 4Z
if small get PCX
Re: Question about buying a Forza
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:20 pm
by davenowherejones
JetPilot wrote:gn2 wrote: Any history of problems with the Forza?[/
No, No and yes, lots of them.
Warped discs front and rear
Sticky rear brake caliper
Premature wear on rear pads due to design failings
Impossible to check rear pads without disassembling inner exhaust heat shield and swinging arm to get caliper out
Leaking waterpump seals
Transmission bearing failure
Brake light switch failure
..
Given Poor GN2's experience, I will be purchasing a 2016 model year Forza, even if it costs more... It seems like one is likely to have problems when purchasing V 1.0, First Model Year, Serial # 000000001 of any scooter. All the guys at the factory were probably standing around GN2's Forza with their wrenches in their hands, trying to figure out how to put the first one together
Mike
And mine is Serial # 000098. They were still trying to get it together. I think they used a bigger hammer to get the water pump in (oil leak). I think my rear brake caliper pins were bent on assembly. The body screws were slightly too small and the plastic rivets did not all pass inspection. And then the first owner dropped it in a parking lot.
I think I have it mostly sorted out now. I just came in after dropping 4000 ft down the Coquihalla and overtaking 30 wheel tractor trailers at 130 kph on a curving high bridge in the rain. Now that requires faith in the Forza holding together under stress. Or is it just plain ignorance on the rider's part.
Re: Question about buying a Forza
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:11 pm
by MBMyer
davenowherejones wrote:I just came in after dropping 4000 ft down the Coquihalla and overtaking 30 wheel tractor trailers at 130 kph on a curving high bridge in the rain. Now that requires faith in the Forza holding together under stress. Or is it just plain ignorance on the rider's part.
Sounds like a normal day at the office to me.
Re: Question about buying a Forza
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 5:44 pm
by fish
davenowherejones wrote:Bad Designs & Quality control problems???
AND why are there still new 2014's?
Your point....?
I know where a new 2009 Vino is for sale...and a new SilverWing....
I bought a left-over Burgman 3 yrs after.
Are you a pcx owner, because PCX owners taking shots at the Forza....is so obviously lame....
:-)
Fish
Re: Question about buying a Forza
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:40 pm
by davenowherejones
fish wrote:davenowherejones wrote:Bad Designs & Quality control problems???
AND why are there still new 2014's?
Your point....?
I know where a new 2009 Vino is for sale...and a new SilverWing....
I bought a left-over Burgman 3 yrs after.
Are you a pcx owner, because PCX owners taking shots at the Forza....is so obviously lame....
:-)
Fish
Nope have a 2014 Forza with 38,000 kilometers on it and more being added almost every day. I really like the concepts of the Forza but it has a few really annoying flaws. But so do I.
Re: Question about buying a Forza
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:02 pm
by JetPilot
fish wrote:davenowherejones wrote:
Are you a pcx owner, because PCX owners taking shots at the Forza....is so obviously lame....
:-)
Fish
Yeah, because everyone knows PCX owners are the worst people ever, and the cause of global warming, crime, and chaos all over the world

I just cant believe how close I came to being one of " those guys " , but I got a Honda SH150i instead, so that makes me cool...
Mike