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Re: Sticking centre stand
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:46 pm
by gn2
Spring doesn't need to be removed before knocking the pivot pin out.
When you tap the end of the pivot pin the locating hole is driven clear of the locating lug, the stand falls down, the tension on the spring is relaxed and you can just lift the spring off.
Re: Sticking centre stand
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:46 pm
by aphid
Pleased to say that I have now managed to remove the main pivot pin to remove the centre stand. Hurrah!
WD40 must have helped as did finding a suitable bar of metal to reach past the exhaust pipe to the pivot end to hit with the hammer. That said, although the pivot extended by a couple of centimetres at the spring end, only when I freed the spring could I wiggle it all the way out.
I’ve cleaned all significant parts with WD40 and rubbed the lightly rusted ends of the pivot pin before covering in copper grease.
Reassembly tomorrow. Let’s hope the spring goes back on without too much difficulty...

Re: Sticking centre stand
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:34 pm
by gn2
Sorry if I wasn't clear, as you have discovered, once pivot pin has been driven the small amount which frees it from the locating lug, the spring needs to come off to get the pivot pin all the way out.
Inuse, the pivot pin doesn't move, the stand rotates around it and there should be at least proper bushes in the pivots.
Once upon a time stand mounts and swingarm pivots had grease nipples fitted for ease of lubrication.
Re: Sticking centre stand
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:25 pm
by GeorgeSK
Interesting idea. I wonder if there is enough meat there to drill and tap for a little grease fitting?
Re: Sticking centre stand
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:00 am
by aphid
gn2 wrote:Sorry if I wasn't clear, as you have discovered, once pivot pin has been driven the small amount which frees it from the locating lug, the spring needs to come off to get the pivot pin all the way out.
Thanks for clarifying. I couldn’t see any other way than removing the spring - still a bit of a struggle - to get the pivot pin fully out. The instructions in the ‘guide’ are so comprehensive that I thought I was missing something obvious and that the spring was supposed to slacken off and be easily removed. I did explore the idea of slipping coins in between the coils, as suggested earlier in the thread, but without any success at all. Not even one 5p coin! The coils and tension is just too compact and, as I discovered, there is also a smaller inner spring.
Re: Sticking centre stand
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:54 am
by aphid
Happy days! Refitting the cleaned, greased centre stand turned out to be a piece of cake...even for me
The bit I was dreading was reattaching the spring. The guide shows attaching the upper end of the spring at the pivot end of the stand and sliding the hooks at the lower end down a Philips screwdriver. Worked a treat!
Many thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread. Couldn’t have done it without you, guys.
Re: Sticking centre stand
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 3:06 pm
by gn2
GeorgeSK wrote:Interesting idea. I wonder if there is enough meat there to drill and tap for a little grease fitting?
An idea from a Honda NC forum:
http://www.nc700.co.uk/index.php?/topic ... ent=131295