How-To: Install an Aftermarket Variator

[Alibally]

That's the sliders fitted. Is hammering down with rain so haven't road tested yet. The old rollers where flat spotted in 2 places, some worse that others. It was quite a simple job though.

[Mgalutia88]

In short my chatter was due to the variator faces being too far appart. Just another possible issue to be aware of. With this though there was slipping and chatter at almost all speeds.

[sendler2112]

In short my chatter was due to the variator faces being too far appart. Just another possible issue to be aware of. With this though there was slipping and chatter at almost all speeds.

Who knows what problem you had at this point with your particular after market parts. It seems like your story keeps changing. Complete misalignment of the belt?

[sendler2112]

Sliders have arrived. Now to get the time to fit them......

There are some better threads to discuss using sliders in a stock variator.
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http://www.hondapcx.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=600
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http://www.hondapcx.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1567
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[Mgalutia88]

Sendler respectfully how has my story changed? My aftermarket parts include an NCY variator and two different windscreens. I'm just trying to contribute to the forum.

[sendler2112]

It's good to have contributors. The place was dead for a while last year.

[maddiedog]

The site's been pretty consistently active. I can pull up stats if you want. You did disappear for awhile though, Sendler. I was gone for awhile too. Things are, on average, slightly slower in the winter too.

I still don't understand how adding the spacer brings the two pulleys closer together. It would bring them further apart if anything, which would aggravate the problem. I don't see how putting it on either side of the boss or variator will make a difference either.

[sendler2112]

spacer

It would have to be between the ramp plate and the inner pulley. In with the weights. So it can take the place of the weights to serve as the stop to inward travel of the pulley.
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I did see in your first photo a spacer that came with the after market vario? Between the ramp plate and the crank because the ramp plate is different?

[maddiedog]

I ordered the spacer separately, Pcxdemon said I should order 2 to experiment with. They were very cheap, so I rolled with it.

That description makes more sense where you're saying it should go. Thanks, much more clear.

[you you]

Woohoo my dr pulley sliders have arrived. I'll try and fit them this weekend

[you you]

Just fitted these. Hour job including cleaning things up a bit and fitting stainless Allen head bolts to the casing/air duct.

It hasn't got the usual starter ring around the variator that you can use to lock things up. I used my pulley holder but I think I'd have been a bit stuck without it.


Looking at the sliders they look as if they would at least broaden the range of the gearing. Can't test things at the moment as I'm supposed to be doing something else

And it's miserable out

[Alibally]

Woohoo my dr pulley sliders have arrived. I'll try and fit them this weekend

I got mine fitted and what my opinion is that is revs higher now at lower speeds but at about 30-35mph it appears to accelerate better on gradients. I haven't tried it to see if there are any top speed changes yet as the weather has been crappy and wet. Time will tell if the fuel consumption is any worse. It's going into storage shortly for the winter anyway.

[you you]

Woohoo my dr pulley sliders have arrived. I'll try and fit them this weekend

I got mine fitted and what my opinion is that is revs higher now at lower speeds but at about 30-35mph it appears to accelerate better on gradients. I haven't tried it to see if there are any top speed changes yet as the weather has been crappy and wet. Time will tell if the fuel consumption is any worse. It's going into storage shortly for the winter anyway.

Yeah, mine too

[maddiedog]

And it's miserable out

I thought it always was miserable where you were?

Something about there's two weather types in Yorkshire -- raining and about to rain.

[wingz]

Maddiedog, what was your rev limited top speed before and after fitting the Takegawa variator?
I read 69mph (after) which is slightly less than my stock PCX150. Not sure the top speed of stock PCX125.

[you you]

And it's miserable out

I thought it always was miserable where you were?

Something about there's two weather types in Yorkshire -- raining and about to rain.

Thats Manchester (in Lancashire, not Yorkshire). If you can't see the hills it's because it's raining, if you can then it's about to rain

[sendler2112]

Maddiedog, what was your rev limited top speed before and after fitting the Takegawa variator?
I read 69mph (after) which is slightly less than my stock PCX150. Not sure the top speed of stock PCX125.

Your speedo might be off. My stock USA PCX150 never beat 68 when it was new, then started to dip down to 64 with the belt run in and now is back up to 68 with the sliders. A stock PCX125 was redline limited and power versus wind limited to about 62 mph.

[mikelx5]

hes also only about 150 pounds i was doing about 68 at 220

[wingz]

Maddiedog, what was your rev limited top speed before and after fitting the Takegawa variator?
I read 69mph (after) which is slightly less than my stock PCX150. Not sure the top speed of stock PCX125.

Your speedo might be off. My stock USA PCX150 never beat 68 when it was new, then started to dip down to 64 with the belt run in and now is back up to 68 with the sliders. A stock PCX125 was redline limited and power versus wind limited to about 62 mph.

Yes my speedo is about 10% out and my above post is referring to speed measured by GPS.
http://www.hondapcx.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1982#p28246
It sounds like I have a winner scoot here... not even run in and it performs well.

I have assumed I hit rev limiter when I was going 113km/h // 70.6mph (GPS).
I wasn't actually trying to go any faster as I was quickly catching up to a wall of cars.

I'll do the same test once I have fitted my 11.5g sliders.

[maddiedog]

I'm measuring by speedo, not GPS.

The video shows a max of 65, but on a warmer day, I've cruised at 69mph and hit downhills at 72-73mph. I think I had some headwind in the video, and since I'm so light, the wind makes a big difference.