So how much would this cost in parts to buy everything to bore up the PCX 125? What if you can't do it yourself, and you need to pay a customizing shop to do so? How many estimated hours would it take?
Re: Takegawa Pcx 170cc
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:07 pm
by Pcxdemon
jasontheparamedic wrote:So how much would this cost in parts to buy everything to bore up the PCX 125? What if you can't do it yourself, and you need to pay a customizing shop to do so? How many estimated hours would it take?
Have a look here: http://japan.webike.net/products/20695735.html
$696US free shipping. I dismantled all the fairings and pulled the engine out, took it to a decent motor mechanic willing to have a play with it. I think it took them no more than two hours installing the kit and i got charged only $100! Yes, $100....for the good measure i gave them $150 for doing it straight away for me late on friday arvo 3pm and a 6pack of beers to toast it after the work done.
I then reinstalled the engine in to the frame,hook up the fi module and put on the fairings back on..
If you can pull the engine out you will save yourself a lot of money as the fairing work is tedious and long..
Re: Takegawa Pcx 170cc
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:35 am
by Okaeri-Japan
hi
Japan webike is not the cheapest store, basically it's not a real store but kinda office located in Yokohama south of Tokyo
they don't stock anything but order parts to Japanese manufacturers and then sell them online
other thing is that they also sell to local customers (webike) and prices are cheaper, you should ask a Japanese to buy and send the parts directly to Australia to get cheaper price
I think you should check with a local Takegawa dealer in your own country to avoid paying VAT and shipping fees, many garages also include installing work in the total price or offer a big discount on it
Most of Takegawa parts are actually made in Taiwan by Koso, I know some people tried to deal with them but they're not allowed to deal directly with other customers, exclusive production for Takegawa
there are also many outlets stores that buy old stocks from famous manufacturers in Tokai or Kansai areas but they only sell to Japanese people, you won't get the latest model but discount can reach -40 or 50%
I bought a Kitaco Cross Mission 5 for Honda minibike in Kyoto a few month ago: normal price was around €790 and I paid it €330, brand new in box
same for a Takegawa Track Road exhaust for Yamaha TW, normal price around €700€, paid 320 in a discount store from Osaka, funny thing is that this part is still in the catalog
turnover is very important in Japan, they are always new parts that are released with minor modifications and they need to discount anterior models, however it's interesting to buy there only if you get big discount
cheers
Re: Takegawa Pcx 170cc
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:55 am
by Pcxdemon
Okaeri-Japan wrote:hi
Japan webike is not the cheapest store, basically it's not a real store but kinda office located in Yokohama south of Tokyo
they don't stock anything but order parts to Japanese manufacturers and then sell them online
other thing is that they also sell to local customers (webike) and prices are cheaper, you should ask a Japanese to buy and send the parts directly to Australia to get cheaper price
I think you should check with a local Takegawa dealer in your own country to avoid paying VAT and shipping fees, many garages also include installing work in the total price or offer a big discount on it
Most of Takegawa parts are actually made in Taiwan by Koso, I know some people tried to deal with them but they're not allowed to deal directly with other customers, exclusive production for Takegawa
there are also many outlets stores that buy old stocks from famous manufacturers in Tokai or Kansai areas but they only sell to Japanese people, you won't get the latest model but discount can reach -40 or 50%
I bought a Kitaco Cross Mission 5 for Honda minibike in Kyoto a few month ago: normal price was around €790 and I paid it €330, brand new in box
same for a Takegawa Track Road exhaust for Yamaha TW, normal price around €700€, paid 320 in a discount store from Osaka, funny thing is that this part is still in the catalog
turnover is very important in Japan, they are always new parts that are released with minor modifications and they need to discount anterior models, however it's interesting to buy there only if you get big discount
cheers
Webike works for me...i dont mind paying a bit extra? if it means giving me extraordinary range of products,great service and a solid money back guarantee if something is wrong... In the last few years i did receive below standard products on couple of occasions and they've dealt with it very fast and professionally...
I would give you a go Oakeri but you said you dont like to deal individually but rather thru dealer...so that takes me out at shopping with you..Dont you think by the time the agent deals with you for the parts he will not add his mark up on top + labour to install the parts? So there go the savings right there.....
Also would be nice to know someone in Japan to be able to get stuff for us but if something is not right once the parts are received it would be a lot harder to deal with the complaints and refunds or replacements...
However i do have a friend now in Thailand that will be able to procure any parts i desire directly from over there bypassing Webike,You or any other 3rd party with greater savings im my pocket. Although i dont really need much anymore as i got most bits and pieces already.
Re: Takegawa Pcx 170cc
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:26 am
by maddiedog
Pcxdemon wrote:Just a quick update on fuel consumption with 170 kit, first oil changed done on 500km and this is the latest figure since ive just emptied the tank:
So the fuel consumption has dropped down to 2.89l/100km,bloody fantastic figures and almost as good as a stock 125cc but with 200cc+ performance....)
For those of you in the US, that is 81.3mpg. Not too bad at all.
Re: Takegawa Pcx 170cc
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:20 pm
by Pcxdemon
New giddy up has arrived
Re: Takegawa Pcx 170cc
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:44 pm
by Pcxdemon
Just finished the install, about an hour of labour..
It appeared bit confusing, gear was exactly the same size as the genuine Honda one but on closer inspection the teeth were closer together on Kitaco by .3-4mm exactly. It reduced my rpm by 400-500 but only on top once the vario maxed out it self. So now I hit 120kmh with an ease and still have sufficient rpm before the limiter kicks in. It tops out at the present at 130kmh maybe with the new belt ill gain bit extra but I'm not chasing more top end. 130kmh is more than sufficient. Best thing is I can cruise at 120kmh+ well away from the red rpm line...
Re: Takegawa Pcx 170cc
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:48 am
by Pcxdemon
After doing few miles of riding I have a clearer picture of what's it like, it goes bit faster everywhere thru the rev range. Cruising and then on full throttle will pick up more speed on the same distance as before, and kinda does it more effortlessly. It is a really worth while mod even on stock 125 I'd say as its not a big gear up..
Re: Takegawa Pcx 170cc
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:23 pm
by maddiedog
I wonder if the lower RPMs will help your fuel economy -- they should. The install looks simple enough.
Re: Takegawa Pcx 170cc
Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 4:12 am
by Pcxdemon
Ive just received my latest upgrade purchase. I kinda got bit bored with stock looking exhaust even though it was Takegawa performance one,so i got a bling Takegawa replacement..Ive just fitted it earlier today and the visual diff is very very nice,It suits it to a tee. It is also considerably lighter which can be easily noticed when riding,sound is not any louder than the last quiet one but has more bass and sporty sound when cruising.Actually my wife said she thinks its quieter than the last one,possible,i say its just a very nice upgrade for sports exhaust. Ill post a video soon.
PS power wise..its an improvment over other exhaust, better takeoff power,improvement in mid range (more torque) and also breathes better on top end..
Well design and execution while keeps noise to a minimum not much more than a stock exhaust is,so def wont piss of neighbours..
Re: Takegawa Pcx 170cc
Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 10:57 pm
by tuanies
Man, I really want to make my PCX 170cc. Maybe one day
Re: Takegawa Pcx 170cc
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 1:39 am
by Pcxdemon
I upgraded rear brake swing arm to Advance Pro product,its 10mm longer than Honda arm and its meant to exert more force on rear brake with less brake leaver movement,effectively making combo breaks more rear biased..
Rear wheel will lock up with more force exerted on the brake leaver,could never do that before without adjusting rear arm to tight and affecting the free spin of the rear wheel...Feels great!
PS power wise..its an improvment over other exhaust, better takeoff power,improvement in mid range (more torque) and also breathes better on top end..
Well design and execution while keeps noise to a minimum not much more than a stock exhaust is,so def wont piss of neighbours..
Very cool Demon How much was that brake arm? That sounds like a good idea, although I can lock my rear easily in the dirt...
Would have been nice to know I could get a 170cc before I bought a 150 but, maybe one day with more 150cc aftermarket support, I can make mine a 195cc
Re: Takegawa Pcx 170cc
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 4:24 pm
by Pcxdemon
dasshreddar wrote:Very cool Demon How much was that brake arm? That sounds like a good idea, although I can lock my rear easily in the dirt...
Would have been nice to know I could get a 170cc before I bought a 150 but, maybe one day with more 150cc aftermarket support, I can make mine a 195cc
Well....Takegawa just brought out 170 for 150 model. 150 is a better starting base for modding than 125 as it has better head with larger valves so thus will pump out more power than 125 as 170..
you can have a look at power dyno graph figures on this site under each pcx model kit..
Ultimately im gunning for 16-17hp at the wheel with my pcx, im just about to acquire 31mm throttle body,bigger injector,150 head and adapter bits with it to fit first gen 125...
Re: Takegawa Pcx 170cc
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 10:03 pm
by Pcxdemon
dasshreddar wrote:Very cool Demon How much was that brake arm?