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Re: NCY Variator, Face Plate, 13gr Rollers, Belt for 2013 1

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:40 pm
by SECoda
I might worry a bit about the acceleration with 18s.

Re: NCY Variator, Face Plate, 13gr Rollers, Belt for 2013 1

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:41 pm
by SECoda
sendler2112 - Where did you mount your tach?

Re: NCY Variator, Face Plate, 13gr Rollers, Belt for 2013 1

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:47 pm
by sendler2112
I just stuck it down with two sided tape just below the reset button on the dash.

Re: NCY Variator, Face Plate, 13gr Rollers, Belt for 2013 1

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:32 pm
by kalai1622
has anyone installed this one?? https://www.scooterdomain.com/ncy-drive ... -1193.html
is it lighter that the stock one? if yes, which are the advantages and if it is worth to buy it..
also found this one.. http://japan.webike.es/products/21354758.html but i really can't understand the usefulness of this..

Re: NCY Variator, Face Plate, 13gr Rollers, Belt for 2013 1

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:44 pm
by SECoda
Yep that's the Face Plate in my title I just put on.

Just did 25 miles at 29 F. Never got cold. I reached 72 mph in a slight downhill and 74 in a steeper one after putting about 15 more miles on the new parts (so 20 miles in total on the new NCY parts before I tried the high speed runs. My first attempt was on a highway with a limit of 65 mph. I just got up to about 71 mph when I spotted the state trooper on the side a block ahead of me. Whew. I bet he wondered what the heck I was doing out the cold. :P

I didn't mount the tach yet but it never hit the rev limiter like it did before at 68.

Re: NCY Variator, Face Plate, 13gr Rollers, Belt for 2013 1

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:30 pm
by ScooterMan
SECoda wrote:Yep that's the Face Plate in my title I just put on.

Just did 25 miles at 29 F. Never got cold. I reached 72 mph in a slight downhill and 74 in a steeper one after putting about 15 more miles on the new parts (so 20 miles in total on the new NCY parts before I tried the high speed runs. My first attempt was on a highway with a limit of 65 mph. I just got up to about 71 mph when I spotted the state trooper on the side a block ahead of me. Whew. I bet he wondered what the heck I was doing out the cold. :P

I didn't mount the tach yet but it never hit the rev limiter like it did before at 68.
Welcome to the 70mph club. =)

No limiter means more speed to go in favorable conditions.

Re: NCY Variator, Face Plate, 13gr Rollers, Belt for 2013 1

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:39 pm
by SECoda
Do you still think the 13g rollers are optimal?

Re: NCY Variator, Face Plate, 13gr Rollers, Belt for 2013 1

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:52 am
by kalai1622
secoda, has the ncy face plate holes for the tool to hold it when install and uninstall it??

Re: NCY Variator, Face Plate, 13gr Rollers, Belt for 2013 1

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:09 am
by SECoda
Nope. I was able to use the locking feature on the one bought on amazon to lock it bottomed out against the fins. Luckily, they didn't break.

Re: NCY Variator, Face Plate, 13gr Rollers, Belt for 2013 1

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:52 pm
by kalai1622
ok thanks!

Re: NCY Variator, Face Plate, 13gr Rollers, Belt for 2013 1

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:17 am
by vamootsman
Mel46 wrote:I have multiple questions now. First let me say that I plan on installing one part at a time, in case there is a problem during the test rides. What should i expect from just installing the 13 gram rollers before installing anything else?

second question: i have a new standard belt to install. Will this be fine or should i get one of the reinforced belts others are gettintg?

last question: Has anyone found the correct clutch holding tool for this bike? The one i have been looking at on Amazon is the one Dave suggested. He had no problem with it, but he's a lot more experienced at tearintg these bike down than many of us. So before i buy it i want to be sure it is not the one others are having problems with.
Get a DeWalt cordless impact driver of some type and go for it. You won't break anything, and they come in handy for all sorts of other projects. Forget the one at a time thing at this point Mel. The variator/faceplate/12-13r roller mods are a no brainer since so many have done it, verified/qualified it, and swear by it. The pipe and filter made mine accelerate harder too, but maybe not enough for the $$$. seriously, go for it.

Re: NCY Variator, Face Plate, 13gr Rollers, Belt for 2013 1

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:30 am
by Pcxdemon
kalai1622 wrote:has anyone installed this one?? https://www.scooterdomain.com/ncy-drive ... -1193.html
is it lighter that the stock one? if yes, which are the advantages and if it is worth to buy it..
also found this one.. http://japan.webike.es/products/21354758.html but i really can't understand the usefulness of this..
I preffer the one from webike-Advance pro. Good balanced weight and bigger diameter work really well.

Re: NCY Variator, Face Plate, 13gr Rollers, Belt for 2013 1

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 7:41 am
by kalai1622
Pcxdemon wrote:
kalai1622 wrote:has anyone installed this one?? https://www.scooterdomain.com/ncy-drive ... -1193.html
is it lighter that the stock one? if yes, which are the advantages and if it is worth to buy it..
also found this one.. http://japan.webike.es/products/21354758.html but i really can't understand the usefulness of this..
I preffer the one from webike-Advance pro. Good balanced weight and bigger diameter work really well.

which difference did you notice after installing it? what I have to expect from it? accelaration? top speed? low fuel consumption?

Re: NCY Variator, Face Plate, 13gr Rollers, Belt for 2013 1

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:37 pm
by SECoda
Hey guys. I see some references to replacing the belt with a Gates Powerlink or some other Kevlar/reinforced belt for better performance. Anyone have a specific place to get them in the USA and a part number for a 2013 150 PCX? I hate to put my new OEM belt on just to have it wear down back to where I am now in 1000 miles. TIA

I see 23100-KZY-000 mentioned at:
http://yuminashi.squarespace.com/-pcx15 ... Position=0

Re: NCY Variator, Face Plate, 13gr Rollers, Belt for 2013 1

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:45 am
by sendler2112
Now that you have your tach, what is the pulling rpm of the NCY vario with 13g weights?

Re: NCY Variator, Face Plate, 13gr Rollers, Belt for 2013 1

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:20 am
by Valiant
SECoda wrote:Hey guys. I see some references to replacing the belt with a Gates Powerlink or some other Kevlar/reinforced belt for better performance. Anyone have a specific place to get them in the USA and a part number for a 2013 150 PCX? I hate to put my new OEM belt on just to have it wear down back to where I am now in 1000 miles. TIA

I see 23100-KZY-000 mentioned at:
http://yuminashi.squarespace.com/-pcx15 ... Position=0
There's plenty of that brand available on eBay, but it's hard to pick out the right one without the specific part number for that particular belt for the PCX.

Honestly, I might just eat the shipping costs and buy a kevlar belt from webike. My personal experience with scooter web shops have been rather poor as of late.

Re: NCY Variator, Face Plate, 13gr Rollers, Belt for 2013 1

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:36 am
by sendler2112
My stock belt lasted 16,000 miles.

Re: NCY Variator, Face Plate, 13gr Rollers, Belt for 2013 1

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:12 am
by SECoda
I can tell the rpms are up a bit in the 0-40 mph range and faster low-end acceleration. At my max speed of 74 mph the tach was about 9000-9100 rpm. I forgot to look at the max before I turned it off. It never hit the rev limiter like it used to at 67-68. I am wondering if the rollers are a bit light given the boost in rpms on the low end.

Re: NCY Variator, Face Plate, 13gr Rollers, Belt for 2013 1

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:46 am
by sendler2112
SECoda wrote:I am wondering if the rollers are a bit light given the boost in rpms on the low end.
Need to know what the pulling rpm is. The way a CVT works, you will see an almost constant rpm at a full throttle run between 30 and 55 mph. This is why you need the tach in order to set the weights to about 8,000 rpm for the best acceleration.

Re: NCY Variator, Face Plate, 13gr Rollers, Belt for 2013 1

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:54 am
by SECoda
52 F there today - I will try to squeeze in a test. It was pretty high like that from what I can remember but we will make sure.