Page 4 of 5

Re: R.I.P Fonda

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:44 pm
by honkerman
homie wrote:I don't even like the look of that glossy strip running down the road... heck is that? Never encountered such a patch in all my driving experience. What sort of underground pipeline or service cable has been buried that could have caused for such a irregularity in the payment? Call the county and get some facts, then call foul on the road work and make the city buy you a new scoot. That's just not right.
Chief says he would have busted his azz in that turn too.
Saw that too...all sorts of alarms going off in my head on seeing that.

Woah, the plot thickens...Took another look at your first pic of the smashed scoot and look what's right there under the front end...Were you on that strip when the scoot went down?

Re: R.I.P Fonda

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:45 pm
by relic
looks slippery

Re: R.I.P Fonda

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:46 pm
by gn2
Surprised no-one has mentioned the huge diesel spill in the picture.

Re: R.I.P Fonda

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:48 pm
by honkerman
gn2 wrote:Surprised no-one has mentioned the huge diesel spill in the picture.
I figured that was scooter blood...

Re: R.I.P Fonda

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:54 pm
by iceman
Many roads in UK cities are worse than that - terrible country for up keep of tarmac (compared to many European countries I've visited such as Denmark, Belgium and Netherlands where the roads are normally in excellent condition, hardly any pot-holes anywhere, nice surface (in the main). Still had no issues with the stock IRC's in 16 months of 365/yr driving in winter and torrential rain, so maybe some IRC's are worse than others or perhaps fitted wrong (we've seen pictures of tyres mounted the wrong direction before now!).
I can ride stable on the pcx at 5mph or perhaps a little less but that's in slow moving traffic and usually having slowed down and kept balance waiting for lights to change and traffic to start moving - but hard to ride slow from take off, just fairly easy to slow down and keep going once you have more speed to start with (this is why slow riding is part of the CBT and Ax style tests).
Sorry to hear you had such a bad experience and wrote-off Fonza - at slow speeds you would imagine falling to one side, some panels scraped but otherwise the bike (and hopefully you) being otherwise ok - not always it seems.

Re: R.I.P Fonda

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:10 am
by Kenno
Yeh, I don't like the look of that road at all. The camber, the shiny surface and can imagine it being very slippery in the rain with diesel. I commute into Liverpool every day and when it rains, the amount of diesel patches right the way along my entire journey is scary.

Glad you're ok.

Re: R.I.P Fonda

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:13 am
by ScootyK
Yeah that looks like the normal type of patchy road job you get used to seeing in the UK i'm afraid, any heavy rain or other slippery stuff especially on the patched up parts can be deadly.

In the village I used to live in, the whole area looked a lot like that, even riding a bicycle was hazardous some days

Glad you're okay though!

Re: R.I.P Fonda

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:21 am
by Seph
honkerman wrote:
gn2 wrote:Surprised no-one has mentioned the huge diesel spill in the picture.
I figured that was scooter blood...
Not all of it. There was a significant amount of fuel on the road. There always is, either than or mud/cow sh*t. or like I said before debris.
Silly using the road but It's a short cut to work.

Re: R.I.P Fonda

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:24 am
by Seph
Kenno wrote:Yeh, I don't like the look of that road at all. The camber, the shiny surface and can imagine it being very slippery in the rain with diesel. I commute into Liverpool every day and when it rains, the amount of diesel patches right the way along my entire journey is scary.

Glad you're ok.
Thanks, you ride safe. I hope you've upgraded your tires to something with alittle more grip.
That's not a million miles away from me.
This road is in Rainford just off the bypass (running by the east lancs) if you've ever been round that way. If not steer clear, it's awful!

Re: R.I.P Fonda

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:36 am
by Seph
ScootyK wrote:Yeah that looks like the normal type of patchy road job you get used to seeing in the UK i'm afraid, any heavy rain or other slippery stuff especially on the patched up parts can be deadly.

In the village I used to live in, the whole area looked a lot like that, even riding a bicycle was hazardous some days

Glad you're okay though!


Cheers, Yeah I'm back on the bicycle and I am not happy about it. No mirrors no armour, a helmet that protects the tip of my head and cars that feel I'm offending their ancestors for being on THEIR roads!

Re: R.I.P Fonda

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:52 am
by Mel46
I saw a comedy movie once in which the guy rode a riding lawn mower to work. People didn't like it but it got him to work! Maybe you should get one too. Add a few flags so everyone can see you.:-) well, it does have 4 wheels.

Re: R.I.P Fonda

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 9:12 am
by gn2
Mel46 wrote:I saw a comedy movie once in which the guy rode a riding lawn mower to work.
You might like this: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166896/

Re: R.I.P Fonda

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:15 am
by Bash On!
"In my understanding and in my experience, bike/scooter stability is the least at low speeds."

May the (centrifugal) force be with you.

Re: R.I.P Fonda

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:33 am
by honkerman
Bash On! wrote:"In my understanding and in my experience, bike/scooter stability is the least at low speeds."

May the (centrifugal) force be with you.
prezactly!

Re: R.I.P Fonda

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:58 pm
by Seph
Lol I've seen both these movies and honestly the thought came to mind.

Re: R.I.P Fonda

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 4:47 pm
by you you
Oh ffs. Ride to the conditions. It's all getting a bit over emotional for me

Re: R.I.P Fonda

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:47 pm
by honkerman
you you wrote:Oh ffs. Ride to the conditions. It's all getting a bit over emotional for me
Sounds like somebody needs a hug!

Re: R.I.P Fonda

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 9:32 pm
by Mel46
I recently drove through South Carolina and their roads are weird. On their freeways, they have cement dividers between the two directions of traffic. That is good, except that they didn't put any drain holes in there anywhere. Then they made the center lane the highest point so that water would drain to the right and to the left...except that the water on the left has no place to go, so the freeway floods! Then we will look at their country roads. Hmmm...lots of sand under that tar. Washouts...sure, why not. I don't know who their engineers were but they have problems. But then the drivers themselves are about as bad, so it all works out in the end, I guess. Heck, if you go to the Northwestern states you will find potholes large enough to swallow a car, so I guess there aren't any really good roads in the United States. Anyone found a country that has excellent roads? A neighbor of ours said Germany has good ones. Anyone driven on them?

Re: R.I.P Fonda

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:49 am
by gn2
Roads in Germany are very good, but the best I've ridden on were in Austria.

Re: R.I.P Fonda

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 5:23 am
by you you
gn2 wrote:Roads in Germany are very good, but the best I've ridden on were in Austria.

Spain and France