^^ Both systems better than individual (separate) brake systems. With (perhaps) one being better than the other. Heh, gn2?
Re: Riding Tips
Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 5:33 pm
by gn2
No perhaps about it.
You would have to be insane to buy a non-ABS Forza.
Re: Riding Tips
Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 6:23 pm
by scisor34
Why would someone who rides as to not use their brakes, ever need anti lock brakes??? Seems a waste of $.
Re: Riding Tips
Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 7:46 pm
by gn2
Humans cannot control brakes as effectively as a computer can.
There will always be those OH SHIT moments, ABS can mean the difference between stayng vertical and crashing.
scisor34 wrote:Why would someone who rides as to not use their brakes, ever need anti lock brakes??? Seems a waste of $.
LOL ... I love it!
Re: Riding Tips
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:48 pm
by WhiteNoise
Another demonstration of ABS brakes. V. Impressive.
Honda should add ABS brakes in a future 200-250cc PCX. Nice! Oh, and longer service intervals (hear that gn2?) and....wider tyres (Michelin
In the year 2525 (?)
Re: Riding Tips
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:29 pm
by you you
WhiteNoise wrote:Another demonstration of ABS brakes. V. Impressive.
Honda should add ABS brakes in a future 200-250cc PCX. Nice! Oh, and longer service intervals (hear that gn2?) and....wider tyres (Michelin
In the year 2525 (?)
I'd heard that ABS is going to be compulsory on all EU vehicles by 2016. Not sure how true it is
Re: Riding Tips
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:44 pm
by gn2
I think under 125 were supposed to be exempt, but as there are 125s being fitted with it already maybe not.
Re: Riding Tips
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 1:39 pm
by WhiteNoise
Friggin' YouTube's are Not poppin'!! Arg! Never had this problem. No show! Bleh!
I will seek out that video link, but in the meantime I have this link to share explaining ABS
I Shouldn't have said "Never had," because it just started happening lately. I'm on my iPad now & I just see a white screen where the youtube should be. So I get on my samsung galaxy S4, to look there. Zip. Now I see a little blue box with a question mark inside of it. My Next test will be on my laptop. Not now though.
Does this mean no more attaching YouTube videos to the forum? Dave? Anybody?
Oh, and that link I just said I would find and post...sorry can't find it now.
So tell me peeps, How's your Sunday going? I'm about to take a ride on my Non ABS 3speed bicycle Cheerio
Re: Riding Tips
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 2:46 pm
by scisor34
If you're an experienced rider with aggressive riding experience(not necessarily talking about the PCX or Forza) you will absolutely hate the lever feel of anti-lock brakes. To the experienced rider they feel "squishy" with no feedback to what's going on. As for the "Oh Shit" moments, often times the safest option is to lay ur bike down in a controlled slide. Good luck doing that with anti-lock brakes.
Re: Riding Tips
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:32 pm
by WhiteNoise
Not to change the subject, and please don't because of my interruption
So, ABS sounds like a sticky subject? Folks like and disliking them 50/50? I have to decide on this, and I'm not familiar With ABS on two wheels. New PCX will Not have them, 200 Burgman will, Sprint will and others out there to be seen will. ABS and me? Hmmm...
Re: Riding Tips
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:09 pm
by gn2
scisor34 wrote:If you're an experienced rider with aggressive riding experience(not necessarily talking about the PCX or Forza) you will absolutely hate the lever feel of anti-lock brakes. To the experienced rider they feel "squishy" with no feedback to what's going on.
Bullshit.
Re: Riding Tips
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:57 pm
by scisor34
gn2 wrote:
scisor34 wrote:If you're an experienced rider with aggressive riding experience(not necessarily talking about the PCX or Forza) you will absolutely hate the lever feel of anti-lock brakes. To the experienced rider they feel "squishy" with no feedback to what's going on.
Bullshit.
Lol......
Re: Riding Tips
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:18 pm
by AustinPCX
scisor34 wrote:As for the "Oh Shit" moments, often times the safest option is to lay ur bike down in a controlled slide. Good luck doing that with anti-lock brakes.
The downside to ABS is you're not going have much biker cred from any near misses where you simply came to a controlled stop and then rode away.
Given a choice between a "controlled" slide and a "controlled" stop, most sensible people would opt to just stop.
Re: Riding Tips
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:58 pm
by scisor34
AustinPCX wrote:
scisor34 wrote:As for the "Oh Shit" moments, often times the safest option is to lay ur bike down in a controlled slide. Good luck doing that with anti-lock brakes.
The downside to ABS is you're not going have much biker cred from any near misses where you simply came to a controlled stop and then rode away.
Given a choice between a "controlled" slide and a "controlled" stop, most sensible people would opt to just stop.
The "oh shit" moments I was referring to are life and death decisions, not "biker cred" moments (if there is such a thing). Absolutely you always want to just stop and ride away. Being able to control your bike enough to execute a controlled laydown in an emergency situation (I haven't been there and hope I never am) is often times the difference between life and death.
Re: Riding Tips
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:14 am
by Fizzy Rascal
scisor34 wrote:often times the safest option is to lay ur bike down in a controlled slide.
I'm sorry, but I disagree. Keeping a bike upright and scrubbing as much speed off as possible is always the best option. And to scrub speed/slow down - one needs one's tyres in contact with the road.
Re: Riding Tips
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:23 am
by gn2
"Controlled laydown"...?
Sounds like the sort of thing a bullshitter might say after they have a crash.