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I'm an old guy and I've either driven cars or bicycles in my lifetime. My first experience with a scooter or motorcycle has been with the Honda PCX that I recently purchased. I'm on this forum almost every day reading all the new posts as well as some of the more interesting older ones. I've noticed that a lot of the people posting on here tend to like to do a lot of their own maintenance. Some of what I've seen seems to be beyond my grasp over a simple oil change or air filter. Even some of the more detailed procedures lose me. I suppose if I were to get my hands dirty and try some of this I could save myself a lot in maintenance costs. I'm thinking that a lot of you ride scooters for economical reasons (they are relatively cheap and get excellent gas mileage) and it would follow that doing maintenance would save as well. My scooter is not my primary means of transportation so, I suppose if I screwed something up trying to do my own work I could always wait for help to fix what I did wrong. I guess I'm just trying to work up the nerve to start doing some of the easier stuff. Anybody else doubt their ability like I do?

I had never done a valve adjustment on an engine before. I read and followed the procedure listed here, wrote up a tool list, and purchased what I didn't have. Followed step by step, took me several hours, was extra carefully, laid each part out with its bolts and screws in correct order. Not a single problem. Done it twice now in the bike, gets easier every time.

You won't know until you try it.

Next up for me, tire replacements. Going to be done over the winter. 5 months from now. Keeping an eye out for tire change tool sales, and the tire sales.

One small thing you could check periodically and lubricate if necessary -- the center stand. Its design is less than bulletproof and some people have reported it can easily seize from rust. Attempts to release it have sometimes resulted in a cracked and leaking crankcase.

I was going to ask about preventative care on that centerstand. From what little I've gone through on this forum, this bit of engineering is the most suspect. Thanks for the tip.

And PK - start small. It seems to me that an oil change should be within pretty much everybody's reach. I may have the man do the first valve adjustment, but definitely plan on getting the plastic trim tools (6 bucks at Harbor Frieght.. not exactly a big investment) to go after the task myself as I get more experience with the machine.

Picking up scoot tomorrow...

khaosaming, hi! Thanks for the tip and pic! Can you please point out to us or tell us where the lubing gets applied? And what type of lube?
Back to other maintenance, Not fearful of getting hands dirty, but a bit when it comes to breaking plastics and tabs. I've done okay so far (oil change, windscreen, brake light switch, mods). Still I keep tossing around inexpensive ways of raising the bike to get these awkward jobs done & save what's left of my back. I'll see what I do "as time goes by" (Tis a song, I do believe
PK, I understand. My advice? Stay tuned in... to the forum, like you've been doing. I think there's quite a few of us taking on repairs we never thought we'd attempt. Read up, get supplies, set up then dive in! Fix what you can. A bit of worry is okay, but hurting doing the job is not. That's the Time to get help! Cheers to gettin' er done!

GeorgeSK, if I didn't say welcome earlier, I'm saying it Welcome! You must be very excited right about now....think this: Two wheelin' down the road! Let the countdown begin!!

WhiteNoise wrote:Can you please point out to us or tell us where the lubing gets applied? And what type of lube?

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I guess any thin and penetrating oil will do (Sonax, WD40). If you are afraid it will dilute or dry the bearings, use a thicker oil spray that has a compound that evaporates (but the residue stays). Otherwise you will have to take it apart and use vaseline applied by hand which is the best thing to do with axles. Apply it in two points inside the hinges (one shown in the picture with the cotter pin).

GeorgeSK wrote:.... but definitely plan on getting the plastic trim tools (6 bucks at Harbor Frieght.. not exactly a big investment) to go after the task myself as I get more experience with the machine.

George ... I am not familiar with the "plastic trim tools" you are referring to. Can you post a link or a pic? I live in Thailand but get back to the US every year. If I can't find the tools here, I'll get them when on my next return trip later this year.

kramnala58 wrote:I am not familiar with the "plastic trim tools"...

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Here's a link:

http://www.harborfreight.com/5-piece-au ... 67021.html

khaosaming wrote: Apply it in two points inside the hinges (one shown in the picture with the cotter pin).

You would think those are hinges, but they're not.

Part number 3 has a flat plate welded to it.
Looking at the top of this plate there's the pin for the spring and a hole which fits over a lug on the crankcase.
This arrangement holds Part number 3 in place so it does not rotate in the crankcase when the stand goes up and down.
To lubricate the stand properly you need to withdraw the pin, coat it with grease and put it back in.
If the pin is not too badly stuck you can get it out with the exhaust in place, but if its rusted up and needs knocked out with a drift, the exhaust has to come off.

^Thanks for the clarification. I was sure somebody would come out with correct information should I fail to do so. Thanks again Gn2.

It's a key area of maintenance and is probably the achilles heel of the PCX.
Well definitely two of them.
I might do a how-to on this one because getting the spring back on is either really easy or really difficult depending on whether you know a little trick with a crosshead screwdriver...

I broke my spring lubing it up last time, I rode with the stand bungee'd for 3 weeks. :/

Do the how-to if you get a chance, it's helpful. I had a hell of a time getting mine off, and I'm not fussing with it right now because it's still operating smoothly.

If that center stand should freeze up, I'd spray those lube points with some PB Blaster and let it sit for a few minutes. PB Blaster has unfrozen a lot rusted stuff for me over the years. It could even conquer salt water corrosion on my sail boat.

Don

Here's another photo of the centerstand from the other side.

gn2 wrote:It's a key area of maintenance and is probably the achilles heel of the PCX.
Well definitely two of them.
I might do a how-to on this one because getting the spring back on is either really easy or really difficult depending on whether you know a little trick with a crosshead screwdriver...

This center stand boog-a-boo talk has got my attention. So glad this was brought up..pointed out. Don't know about other peeps here but I'd appreciate a How To on this. If you have the time? Thanks, WN (o;

gn2 wrote:It's a key area of maintenance and is probably the achilles heel of the PCX.
Well definitely two of them.
I might do a how-to on this one because getting the spring back on is either really easy or really difficult depending on whether you know a little trick with a crosshead screwdriver...

Never heard them called cross head screwdrivers before. Most places I've been call them Phillips head.

Phillips was the guy who invented the crosshead screw.
Not all crosshead screws are Phillips ones though.

Ah okay.

Enjoy..