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Getting ready to change my oil for the first time. The photos in the How To section are very helpful.
Here's my question: is it really necessary to torque the bolts for the drain plug and the filter plug?
I have been changing oil in my vehicles for years and do not own a torque wrench.
Just wondering.

Lecompte
2011 PCX 125

Lecompte wrote:Getting ready to change my oil for the first time. The photos in the How To section are very helpful.
Here's my question: is it really necessary to torque the bolts for the drain plug and the filter plug?
I have been changing oil in my vehicles for years and do not own a torque wrench.
Just wondering.

Lecompte
2011 PCX 125

Theoretically its better to use a torque wrench

But it's not necessary if you've been changing oil for years

I just completed my first oil change yesterday and did not use one. Just dont over tighten things to the point of breaking them. The filter nut should be snug tight, remember there is an oring that seals it. Over tightening will cut of flatten the oring and can cause premature leaking.

I may sound dummy, but could someone please give us a "how to" in the "How To" forum on setting & using a torque wrench? I've gone without using one, but recently bought one (on sale at Harborfreight). The thing just confuses me. I have a shop manual and using a torque wrench is mentioned throughout, so I'm gathering it's necessary for lotsa fixes. I know I would appreciate the lesson, perhaps others will too?

I'm not sure this rates as a how-to, but you might try finding a lag screw (1/4", 5/16", whatever...) and a bit of 2x4 wood. Drill a smallish pilot hole maybe an inch or so deep and insert the lag screw. Fix the appropriate socket onto your torque wrench, and start the screw. Set the torque wrench at a low-torque setting, most likely by screwing some sleeve sort of thing up or down. Now work the screw into the wood. At some point, the wrench will "click". You can keep tightening if you want, but you have reached the desired torque. Reset the wrench for maybe another 10 ft-pounds (or newtons) and repeat. You will pretty quickly get the feel for when the correct torque has been reached.

I apologize in advance to my non-US friends here. We tend to be pretty provincial with our units....

WhiteNoise wrote:I may sound dummy, but could someone please give us a "how to" in the "How To" forum on setting & using a torque wrench? I've gone without using one, but recently bought one (on sale at Harborfreight). The thing just confuses me. I have a shop manual and using a torque wrench is mentioned throughout, so I'm gathering it's necessary for lotsa fixes. I know I would appreciate the lesson, perhaps others will too?

What type of torque wrench is it?

Didn't it come with a manual?

I can't really advise on whether or not to use one but i can say that, having recently changed the oil using my torque wrench, had i not used it i would have definitely over tightened both bolts. The established torque values in the service manual are much less than i would have expected.

youyou, Click type. Directions not good nuff, confusing me (easy to do )
Fussy tool I'm told and not that accurate? Store boys not up on this one. But, I got one anyway and thought an expert could guide me should I torque it next oil change. Wowie, you could really hurt someone with this thing, no featherweight. Think I'll put it in my car.....If we don't get along
Thanks GeorgeSK for the practice idea and cessna for your input. CheapRide I share those thoughts, I also keep several crush washers around, Honda gave me a few (parts dept) when we chatted about oil changes. Nice guy he was.
Maybe youtube will have a flick on setting this clicker.

WhiteNoise wrote:youyou, Click type. Directions not good nuff, confusing me (easy to do )
Fussy tool I'm told and not that accurate? Store boys not up on this one. But, I got one anyway and thought an expert could guide me should I torque it next oil change. Wowie, you could really hurt someone with this thing, no featherweight. Think I'll put it in my car.....If we don't get along
Thanks GeorgeSK for the practice idea and cessna for your input. CheapRide I share those thoughts, I also keep several crush washers around, Honda gave me a few (parts dept) when we chatted about oil changes. Nice guy he was.
Maybe youtube will have a flick on setting this clicker.

If it's a click type its a pretty simple thing. Set it to the torque required and it clicks when you reach it

It's pretty idiot proof

The problem with the idiot proof concept is that nature just keeps producing worse idiots.

Okay. I do get the set/click idea. Just asking.
In the U.S. our largest chains of home improvement stores have tool demonstrations and offer classes using them. The demo introduces the tool and how it operates, helps sales and improves customer appreciation. Not everyone is tool savvy. I credit myself to be fairly good thanks to my Dad. I watched him helped him, and now know what I know because of him. I never saw him use/handle a torque wrench like the one I now have in my toolbox. I shall learn Thanks ya'll