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Automatic motorbike

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:54 pm
by al69
I recently saw one of these up london.It pulled up at the lights and the people either side of it were talking to the rider about it which is why i noticed it.As the lights changed it pulled off quickly without any fuss and extremely smoothly.
As it had a scoot trying to keep up and a motorcycle the other side it was easy to see how smooth it was.The way it went off without any rocking motion of the gears changing etc like a scoot was pretty impressive and it was very quiet too.

Smooth smooth and smooth is the only way to describe it,the motorbike was left behind too as was the scoot (honda ps) that was trying to keep up with it.
I dont know much about them but it seemed the perfect commuter tool for getting into and around central london as it had scooter easy rideabily in the traffic but i bet it can also blast down the motorways too.

Re: Automatic motorbike

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:06 pm
by Fiah
could have been an Aprilia Mana, which is basically a motorcycle with a CVT

Re: Automatic motorbike

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:29 pm
by gn2
Could also have been a Honda DN-01, VFR1200, NC700 or a Yamaha FJR1300AS.

Re: Automatic motorbike

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:53 pm
by maddiedog
Lots of motorcycles with CVTs -- what make was it?

Gn2, I cringed when you mentioned the DN-01. I've ridden one before, it was terrible, and got terrible gas mileage. It was built like a brick shithouse though, damn thing was heavy and tough as nails for a bike.

Re: Automatic motorbike

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:28 pm
by edscoot
I quite liked the look of the DN01. I know I'm in a minority of one though.

Re: Automatic motorbike

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:54 pm
by gn2
It's definitely a marmite job.
Could become a very rare classic in years to come.

Re: Automatic motorbike

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 4:04 pm
by al69
maddiedog wrote:Lots of motorcycles with CVTs -- what make was it?

Gn2, I cringed when you mentioned the DN-01. I've ridden one before, it was terrible, and got terrible gas mileage. It was built like a brick shithouse though, damn thing was heavy and tough as nails for a bike.
I reckon ive seen one of the new integras honda are doing.
http://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/scooters/#!/INTEGRA/

Surprised its called a scooter rather than an auto motorcycle.

Re: Automatic motorbike

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:14 pm
by gn2
What's in a name, scooters are just a type of motorcycle.
Engine, two wheels, lean in corners, it's all just the same thing.

Re: Automatic motorbike

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:54 pm
by ericpcx
yes the Honda NC700 has that option,CVT or gears,that will be my next bike
gn2 wrote:Could also have been a Honda DN-01, VFR1200, NC700 or a Yamaha FJR1300AS.

Re: Automatic motorbike

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:02 pm
by Fiah
ericpcx wrote:yes the Honda NC700 has that option,CVT or gears,that will be my next bike
gn2 wrote:Could also have been a Honda DN-01, VFR1200, NC700 or a Yamaha FJR1300AS.
No no no no no, the NC700 does not have an CVT as an option, but a DCT. Big difference!

Re: Automatic motorbike

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:57 am
by you you
Fiah wrote:
ericpcx wrote:yes the Honda NC700 has that option,CVT or gears,that will be my next bike
gn2 wrote:Could also have been a Honda DN-01, VFR1200, NC700 or a Yamaha FJR1300AS.
No no no no no, the NC700 does not have an CVT as an option, but a DCT. Big difference!

Only in terms if operation. Not function.

Re: Automatic motorbike

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:14 am
by gn2
qed wrote:Only in terms if operation. Not function.
A DCT has a fixed set of gear ratios, a CVT doesn't.

Re: Automatic motorbike

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:21 pm
by Fiah
qed wrote: Only in terms if operation. Not function.
The end result might be that the bike accelerates without you having to change gears or actuate a clutch, yes. But the manner in which it goes about achieving this is completely different. As to which is superior, I don't know as I haven't personally tried it yet so I can't form an opinion. I do know however that the DCT avoids the inherent inefficiency of a CVT, and for a bike aimed at fuel economy I think that is a pretty important point to make.

Re: Automatic motorbike

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:10 pm
by Taz
I would suspect that CVT is cheaper and easier to maintain than a DCT which is also important for keeping costs down in the PCX class of bike.