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how to prevent rust

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:54 am
by dog64bull
So I keep my pcx outside all the time with a cover. The cover is decent but I'm afraid it'll rust if I just keep out there like that. I plan on getting the speedily shelter in about a month so that should help me out. my questions: how do u prevent rust from happening? What should u do to ur scooter after it rains?

Re: how to prevent rust

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:08 pm
by Alibally
I use ACF50. My bikes nearly 4 years old and it's still pretty mint. It stops the alloy parts getting that powdery corrosion on them. Keeping it clean and avoiding leaving it it covered in road salt also helps.
It's about £13 a can but it lasts for ages. It's designed for the aviation industry, I think for planes on aircraft carriers to stop corrosion. The grease is good as well. It stops the center stand seizing up.

Re: how to prevent rust

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:12 pm
by gn2
Apart from the ACF-50, leave the cover off.
A cover stops the scooter from drying out and can cause it to be constantly wet through condensation.

Re: how to prevent rust

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:15 pm
by Valiant
gn2 wrote:Apart from the ACF-50, leave the cover off.
A cover stops the scooter from drying out and can cause it to be constantly wet through condensation.
That would depend on the quality of the cover and the level of rainfall. After a hurricane or something similar, you might want to air it out. But as far as rainy days go in Hawaii, my Dowco Guardian Weatherall typically left water puddled around the seat, whereas my Falcon Defender 2000 leaves my PCX bone dry every time I take it off.

There is a good point on the centerstand however, as no cover will stop water from pooling on the ground it's standing on. Mine is already rusting up. I'll try to work it off with some steel wool and Mother's Mag & Aluminum Polish, though I do happen to have a can of Eezox. If the concern is seizing, then a lubricant/rust prevention combo ought to work just as well.

Re: how to prevent rust

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:00 am
by MikeP
I found it! I can't wait to clean my scoot and protect it.

http://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/cspages/acf50.php

Re: how to prevent rust

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:07 am
by Alibally
It's widely available in most of the bike dealers in the UK.

Re: how to prevent rust

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:28 am
by MikeP
In Canada, its hard to find a lot of products. Don't know why, but I usually have to import what I want.

Re: how to prevent rust

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:52 am
by dog64bull
Alibally wrote:I use ACF50. My bikes nearly 4 years old and it's still pretty mint. It stops the alloy parts getting that powdery corrosion on them. Keeping it clean and avoiding leaving it it covered in road salt also helps.
It's about £13 a can but it lasts for ages. It's designed for the aviation industry, I think for planes on aircraft carriers to stop corrosion. The grease is good as well. It stops the center stand seizing up.
What's the process/technique you use to apply this? Like how do you do it? I'm going yo get some of this and I want to make sure I'm doing it right

Re: how to prevent rust

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:50 am
by MikeP

Re: how to prevent rust

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:53 am
by gn2
Valiant wrote:
gn2 wrote:Apart from the ACF-50, leave the cover off.
A cover stops the scooter from drying out and can cause it to be constantly wet through condensation.
That would depend on the quality of the cover and the level of rainfall.
And whether the bike is wet when you put the cover on.
If your super duper ultra waterproof goes on while the scooter is even damp, it will stay damp.

Re: how to prevent rust

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:07 pm
by Valiant
Maybe? I've yet to put the cover on while it was still raining, so I haven't had the opportunity to test that yet.

The cover would stop wind from blowing over it, but a fabric like Goretex might still allow it to breathe. Might still be like pouring water on your kitchen tiles and letting it air dry without a fan.

On the other hand, if it's raining long into the afternoon here, it'll generally rain at night too, so it doesn't make that much difference whether the cover is on or not. On the other hand, the locking cover serves the other purpose of hiding my PCX from prying eyes(especially at night).

Re: how to prevent rust

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 3:09 pm
by dog64bull
Alibally wrote:I use ACF50. My bikes nearly 4 years old and it's still pretty mint. It stops the alloy parts getting that powdery corrosion on them. Keeping it clean and avoiding leaving it it covered in road salt also helps.
It's about £13 a can but it lasts for ages. It's designed for the aviation industry, I think for planes on aircraft carriers to stop corrosion. The grease is good as well. It stops the center stand seizing up.

So this will protect the plastics and metals? It wont harm the paint?

Re: how to prevent rust

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 3:24 pm
by gn2
ACF-50 will not harm plastics.
There's plenty video tutorials on YouTube of how to apply it.
The way I do it: spray it on a cloth and wipe on.

Re: how to prevent rust

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:57 pm
by Alibally
It's fine everywhere except for brakes obviously and taped up wiring looms don't like it as it melts the glue on the tape causing the looms to unravel a bit. So try and keep clear of them. Don't worry if it gets on the exhaust it will just burn off.
A mate of mine works at a BMW bike place nearby and all the demos are covered in the stuff. They have an off road course they use so they get properly used and abused.

Re: how to prevent rust

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:14 am
by dog64bull
Alibally wrote:It's fine everywhere except for brakes obviously and taped up wiring looms don't like it as it melts the glue on the tape causing the looms to unravel a bit. So try and keep clear of them. Don't worry if it gets on the exhaust it will just burn off.
A mate of mine works at a BMW bike place nearby and all the demos are covered in the stuff. They have an off road course they use so they get properly used and abused.

What about the suspension?

Re: how to prevent rust

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:41 am
by Alibally
I don't think there is a problem with that.

Re: how to prevent rust

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:14 pm
by gn2
Stick it on anything metal, suspension, brakes, radiator, engine, electrics, everywhere.
It soon burns off the discs and pads.

Re: how to prevent rust

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:07 am
by dog64bull
Alibally wrote:It's fine everywhere except for brakes obviously and taped up wiring looms don't like it as it melts the glue on the tape causing the looms to unravel a bit. So try and keep clear of them. Don't worry if it gets on the exhaust it will just burn off.
A mate of mine works at a BMW bike place nearby and all the demos are covered in the stuff. They have an off road course they use so they get properly used and abused.

Can you spray it IN the exhaust?

Re: how to prevent rust

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:10 am
by Alibally
dog64bull wrote:
Alibally wrote:It's fine everywhere except for brakes obviously and taped up wiring looms don't like it as it melts the glue on the tape causing the looms to unravel a bit. So try and keep clear of them. Don't worry if it gets on the exhaust it will just burn off.
A mate of mine works at a BMW bike place nearby and all the demos are covered in the stuff. They have an off road course they use so they get properly used and abused.

Can you spray it IN the exhaust?

I don't think that would be a good idea. It's really for exterior use. I personally wouldn't go near the brakes either.

Re: how to prevent rust

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:42 am
by ScooteringAbout
Another vote for ACF50, and I echo the above, avoid the brakes and I would not spray it in the exhaust!