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When's the new esp PCX out in the UK?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:04 am
by louthepoo
Obviously the 125 version! I asked my local dealer and he said he didn't know!!
Re: When's the new esp PCX out in the UK?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:46 am
by Theboybilly
My dealer hadn't heard anything about it at all. I don't think it will be too long before it comes out though.
Bill
Re: When's the new esp PCX out in the UK?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:10 am
by Scottish
what is this ESP ? enhanced smart power but what is it it exactly and how much more power do you get ?
Re: When's the new esp PCX out in the UK?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:09 am
by Teamtd11
I remember reading a while back that its about half a BHP increase. With a similar increase to torque.
It also uses a more efficient radiator and because of that it can use a smaller fan. wasting less of the engines power driving it.
Overall its like someone at Honda decided to go over every component and just make it that little bit more efficient.
Re: When's the new esp PCX out in the UK?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:13 am
by gn2
Scottish wrote:what is this ESP ? enhanced smart power but what is it it exactly and how much more power do you get ?
It's not about giving more power it's about increasing combustion efficiency and fuel economy.
Re: When's the new esp PCX out in the UK?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:48 am
by Scottish
gn2 wrote:Scottish wrote:what is this ESP ? enhanced smart power but what is it it exactly and how much more power do you get ?
It's not about giving more power it's about increasing combustion efficiency and fuel economy.
they should have called it Enhanced Smart Combustion & Fuel Economy
Re: When's the new esp PCX out in the UK?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:18 pm
by gn2
They should just have done the modifications and kept quiet about it.
Re: When's the new esp PCX out in the UK?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:26 pm
by Fiah
you know, the one thing they could have done to make the PCX objectively better was to make the tank bigger
but hey, we claim it's more economical so it won't really bother you if we just make it a tiny bit smaller, right?
Re: When's the new esp PCX out in the UK?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:33 pm
by gn2
Yep, the one modification I would pay money for right now is a bigger tank.
Re: When's the new esp PCX out in the UK?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:41 pm
by Teamtd11
increased to 11.7 hp (was 11.3 hp) at 8,000 rpm, while torque is increased to 12 Nm (was 11.56 Nm) at 6,000 rpm
Re: When's the new esp PCX out in the UK?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:04 pm
by Scottish
Teamtd11 wrote: increased to 11.7 hp (was 11.3 hp) at 8,000 rpm, while torque is increased to 12 Nm (was 11.56 Nm) at 6,000 rpm
So there is an increase in power, despite having 'power' in the name and there being an actual increase in power, the boffins at Honda were only interested in "increasing combustion efficiency and fuel economy" so says gn2.
Re: When's the new esp PCX out in the UK?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:38 pm
by Teamtd11
Well by increasing combustion efficiency you are getting the energy out of the fuel more efficiently. Which will give more power and fuel economy.
Re: When's the new esp PCX out in the UK?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:11 pm
by gn2
Scottish wrote:So there is an increase in power, despite having 'power' in the name and there being an actual increase in power, the boffins at Honda were only interested in "increasing combustion efficiency and fuel economy" so says gn2.
They could have increased the power by 3.7 hp to the 15 hp limit for a learner 125 yet they chose to increase it by just 0.4 instead.
So like I said, it's about increasing efficiency.
Here's what Honda have to say:
http://world.honda.com/news/2012/212040 ... index.html