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Read somewhere here a fellow's using the same method I quickly settled on with my Forza.
I put the side stand down to dismount, then raise it up on the center stand.
I do warm it up for my before sunrise rides - which means I cannot put the side stand down or the engine dies. But I can fling the ankle over the tank flap one time to get started.
I often hook my foot on the tail of the scoot when dismounting even when the side stand is down - and sure would not try it with the scoot on the center stand - or with a top case back there. Likely pull the scoot over.
Age issue I guess.
I wish the Forza was a big wheeled SH300 step through (like the Kymco People 300i)...but happy to have the Forza since we're apparently lucky to have any Honda scooters in the USA.
Fish

It was me, and yes, it's an age and flexibility issue. For me, mostly caused by my back.

I put the side stand down then step through to the right to dismount.

fish wrote:I do warm it up for my before sunrise rides

Waste of time and fuel.
Probably damaging too.
Don't start it till you're ready to go and as soon as the engine is started its ready to ride.

gn2 wrote:

fish wrote:I do warm it up for my before sunrise rides

Waste of time and fuel.
Probably damaging too.
Don't start it till you're ready to go and as soon as the engine is started its ready to ride.

How could warming an engine up be bad or damaging?

The oil flow rate when idling is significantly less than when being ridden.
Also because during idling the engine warms up slower it spends more time running cold which increases wear.
Prolonged idling can also damage the exhaust system.

gn2 wrote:The oil flow rate when idling is significantly less than when being ridden.
Also because during idling the engine warms up slower it spends more time running cold which increases wear.
Prolonged idling can also damage the exhaust system.

It doesn't make any difference it's all within the design parameters of an engine but is frequently picked up by the supercilious or the overly anxious

Go to Assen and see what an engine can do, without oil, without warming up and at full throttle for hours at an end.

Tw@ts if you are trying to sleep.