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Headlight spider frame/mount

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 7:59 am
by amruth92
Hello! Apologies in advance if this is in the wrong place...

I unfortunately [and incredibly stupidly] crashed my PCX a few weeks ago, but it appeared that the only items to have sustained damage were the front bodywork panels, and the headlights.

However, whilst replacing the body panels, I found that not all of them were fitting together properly, and the cause was probably the fact that the headlight frame / mount / spider was bent on one side, as it took the brunt of the impact. This obviously meant that the headlights weren't sitting completely correctly on the bike, and the front fairing panels weren't attaching completely correctly as a result. What this has meant is that the fairings are secure, but there are a couple of strange gaps between them and the surrounding bodywork areas, and I'm unable to fit the 'interior' body work [i.e. the black plastics that surround the keyhole and glovebox] until everything's straightened out.

I was just wondering: has anyone on the forum actually replaced this mount - how easy is it? Is it something I could do myself, or would you recommend I take it to a mechanic? Are there any particular precautions I'd need to be aware of before starting work on it?

Thank you in advance for your help!

Re: Headlight spider frame/mount

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 9:45 am
by dasshreddar
Welcome... I have modified this mount several times on both pcx and forza.
I don't know your skill level, but you should be able to bend the headlight frame back into shape( it is somewhat thin metal and bends easy enough).
taking it to a mechanic would be soooo expensive... replacing the headlight frame isn't hard, but would probably take you a long time.

Re: Headlight spider frame/mount

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:52 am
by amruth92
dasshreddar wrote:Welcome... I have modified this mount several times on both pcx and forza.
I don't know your skill level, but you should be able to bend the headlight frame back into shape( it is somewhat thin metal and bends easy enough).
taking it to a mechanic would be soooo expensive... replacing the headlight frame isn't hard, but would probably take you a long time.
Thanks for your help and for the welcome! :)

I assume I'd need some sort of welding skill? I tried to see if I could just bend it back into shape with brute strength, but I felt a bit silly for even trying!
Sadly, I have never welded in my life, and have absolutely no access to any welding tools.

I've attached a picture where I've circled the part of the frame that appears to be bent, in case that has any impact on the course of action I'd have to take...

Thanks again! :)

Re: Headlight spider frame/mount

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:57 pm
by dasshreddar
Yeah that sure is bent. I think cutting the bent piece off and re welding it in a stockish position would be the easiest.
but try bending it with a large prybar and or take the frame off and hammer it back into submission. ;)
probably will take a long time to get just right... but definitely doable. 8)

Re: Headlight spider frame/mount

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:47 pm
by amruth92
dasshreddar wrote:hammer
Aaah-ha! Hammer! Forgot about using a hammer. Will it really bend that easily, though? Looks pretty tough, to me! I'll give it a go, but if it doesn't work out, I've got a replacement spider on the way, so I'll just need to have lots patience and time!

Thanks for your advice :)

Re: Headlight spider frame/mount

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:54 am
by maddiedog
BEND IT!!!

My first scooter was a Honda Reflex that the previous owner had damaged the same way. I bent a similar subframe back with great effort (a friend had to hold the bike while I tugged with all my 150lbs of "might"). The frame was close enough for the panels to mount well enough to be passable from a 10-foot distance. Good luck with your repair, and reference this if you have trouble getting her back together: http://hondapcx.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2630

Re: Headlight spider frame/mount

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:15 pm
by amruth92
maddiedog wrote:BEND IT!!!

My first scooter was a Honda Reflex that the previous owner had damaged the same way. I bent a similar subframe back with great effort (a friend had to hold the bike while I tugged with all my 150lbs of "might"). The frame was close enough for the panels to mount well enough to be passable from a 10-foot distance. Good luck with your repair, and reference this if you have trouble getting her back together: http://hondapcx.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2630
Thank you! Luckily, my new subframe arrived today! I'll see if I can bend the old one back in to shape, but I'll give replacing it a go if I don't have the strength!

Also: thank you so much for that guide. It was absolutely indispensable when it came to dismantling and attempting to rebuild the bodywork! I've got it bookmarked and it will always be my go-to resource!