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Anyone using a Fumoto oil drain valve on 2013 PCX150?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:44 am
by j.d.b.
On my next oil change I'm considering installing one. I didn't find much on a search here, so I'm asking if anyone is currently using one on a '13 PCX150, which model#, and does it hang lower than the exhaust pipe?
All the sites I looked at only allow me to select up to 2009 Honda bikes of any type.
Thanks!

Re: Anyone using a Fumoto oil drain valve on 2013 PCX150?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:55 am
by Jge64
Will try to mount the fumoto 107s I have this aft...?Not sure this will be the final adapter , but stay tuned may mount stahlbus later....

Re: Anyone using a Fumoto oil drain valve on 2013 PCX150?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:01 am
by homie
Wish I knew what you homies where talking about... sounds interesting. How about more information for us non-mechanics who would like to make oil changes as easy as possible? Chief says "show me"

Re: Anyone using a Fumoto oil drain valve on 2013 PCX150?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:03 am
by Jge64

Re: Anyone using a Fumoto oil drain valve on 2013 PCX150?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:08 am
by j.d.b.
The idea is to replace the oil drain plug with a ball-valve. The important thing is whether it hangs too low (below the exhaust pipe). I've ben discussing it with Glen who has two types to try. One is the Fumoto and the other comes from Stahlbus. He's going to try them out and let us know which is his choice. I'm not too hot n the Stahlbus as it requires me to keep track of an extra part (the male quick-connect fitting). The Fumoto is a simple ball valve with either a short or long exit nipple. Thank you, Glen, staying tuned!

Re: Anyone using a Fumoto oil drain valve on 2013 PCX150?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:13 am
by homie
um... I don't know about that level action, I could run over a stick or a gremlin could prank me. You go first :lol:
http://www.amazon.com/Fumoto-F-106N-Eng ... B003T7XUE4

Re: Anyone using a Fumoto oil drain valve on 2013 PCX150?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:16 am
by Jge64
Of course that's not the one to use.....and yes, it can't stick down more than other components. I know where and how I drive so not worried about rouge undulations that would tear up the crankcase. If I hit something hard enuf to tweak this valve, I've got bigger problems that the valve.

Re: Anyone using a Fumoto oil drain valve on 2013 PCX150?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:19 am
by iceman
£40 for the better one seems good, but the amount of oil changes I'm likely to do it doesn't justify fitting one as I do less than 5000 miles/yr (may help for those 1000 mile oil-change peeps!). You may also be able to remove it, swap the original bolt back in and re-use it on a new bike.

Re: Anyone using a Fumoto oil drain valve on 2013 PCX150?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:19 am
by homie
Jge64 wrote:Of course that's not the one to use
there are more? I would rather see something done with this pain in the butt filter access. Does anyone know why we have the extreme spring tension on this filter access and difficult removal?

http://www.amazon.com/Scooter-Drain-Spr ... ZRRAEMRSF1

Re: Anyone using a Fumoto oil drain valve on 2013 PCX150?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:26 am
by Jge64
iceman wrote:£40 for the better one seems good, but the amount of oil changes I'm likely to do it doesn't justify fitting one as I do less than 5000 miles/yr (may help for those 1000 mile oil-change peeps!). You may also be able to remove it, swap the original bolt back in and re-use it on a new bike.
There are other reasons to have one… We all have different lifestyle situations… I'm in a condo garage that you cannot work on your bike and certainly can't do an oil change, however by flipping a valve into a bottle I can do an oil change in 5 minutes. Here's me draining my 2014 Vett, again, the white adapter pops off and leave nothing to hit.

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Re: Anyone using a Fumoto oil drain valve on 2013 PCX150?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:28 am
by homie
that does look clean and easy... and you do have a low oil indicator on a car.

Re: Anyone using a Fumoto oil drain valve on 2013 PCX150?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:43 am
by Jge64
In our case it beats doing some rube Goldberg method of setting up that keep it from running down the center stand. This is as clean as it gets....

Re: Anyone using a Fumoto oil drain valve on 2013 PCX150?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:20 am
by iceman
On the PCX it'll stick down about a cm more than the current bolt, but not sure if that will cause problems with speed humps and such (probably not with all the other gubbins down there). What size is the PCX drain hole - 12mm? (is it the same as the bolt 'cap' size itself?)

Re: Anyone using a Fumoto oil drain valve on 2013 PCX150?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:23 am
by Jge64
iceman wrote:On the PCX it'll stick down about a cm more than the current bolt, but not sure if that will cause problems with speed humps and such (probably not with all the other gubbins down there). What size is the PCX drain hole - 12mm? (is it the same as the bolt 'cap' size itself?)
drain plug is M12 x 1.5

Re: Anyone using a Fumoto oil drain valve on 2013 PCX150?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:04 pm
by iceman
Jge64 wrote:
iceman wrote:On the PCX it'll stick down about a cm more than the current bolt, but not sure if that will cause problems with speed humps and such (probably not with all the other gubbins down there). What size is the PCX drain hole - 12mm? (is it the same as the bolt 'cap' size itself?)
drain plug is M12 x 1.5
Thanks :)

Re: Anyone using a Fumoto oil drain valve on 2013 PCX150?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:13 pm
by Jge64
the 12 x 1.5 F109s is the one that fits, but I don't like the result. There is a casting ridge in front of the oil drain bolt that would require a longer neck on the valve to get it snug, or an extender which would make it hang down too much..... have a call into Fumoto tech Support to discuss....looking more and more like the Stahlbus will work better....
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Re: Anyone using a Fumoto oil drain valve on 2013 PCX150?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:33 pm
by WhiteNoise
Jge64 wrote:In our case it beats doing some rube Goldberg method of setting up that keep it from running down the center stand. This is as clean as it gets....
You mean something like this?
That's WN getting her Deluxe Synthetic oil change treatment.
Relaxed, Lifted and re-lubed. No cig or booze, that cost extra :lol:

Re: Anyone using a Fumoto oil drain valve on 2013 PCX150?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:08 pm
by Jge64
yup ...done the same....ridiculous it runs down the centerstand......

Re: Anyone using a Fumoto oil drain valve on 2013 PCX150?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:00 pm
by you you
Jge64 wrote:the 12 x 1.5 F109s is the one that fits, but I don't like the result. There is a casting ridge in front of the oil drain bolt that would require a longer neck on the valve to get it snug, or an extender which would make it hang down too much..... have a call into Fumoto tech Support to discuss....looking more and more like the Stahlbus will work better....
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I use these occasionally. But there not for a PCX really. First speedbump....

Re: Anyone using a Fumoto oil drain valve on 2013 PCX150?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:49 pm
by WhiteNoise
I've heard of those valves and I have to admit I was tempted to buy one. But inner self said beware for some reason. Leaking was one doubt, the second was perhaps at smacking a Speedbump. Ours seem to be growing in height here, so big. I dislike them, but they serve a purpose, I suppose. There are 3 of them just on one block that I dribble over (p.i.t.a.)! And more just to get out of my community.
As far as my oil rig shown above, only 2 dots of oil escaped the plastic tub. That was my fault lining things up. Easy fix.

Now I have a vacuum to try next oil change: (look 2yous ;)
@ homie...come up with something man, that spring bolt set-up is badass! oops, sorry! :x