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Came off the bike today, I was going round a bend heading towards a road junction I slowed down and gently hit the break next thing I knew me and the bike were skidding on its left side,
I cant understand how it happened only thing I can think of is that I used my back break and must have hit some oil the roads were wet but couldn't see any oil at all,
The bike came worse off then me, I hurt my knee finger and shoulder thank god for my armour jacket, The bike still runs fine but now I need 3 new panels for it.

uploader wrote:Came off the bike today, I was going round a bend heading towards a road junction I slowed down and gently hit the break next thing I knew me and the bike were skidding on its left side,
I cant understand how it happened only thing I can think of is that I used my back break and must have hit some oil the roads were wet but couldn't see any oil at all,
The bike came worse off then me, I hurt my knee finger and shoulder thank god for my armour jacket, The bike still runs fine but now I need 3 new panels for it.

Ooof. Sorry about that mate

Passage of rights thing if it helps

Oh no! Glad you're okay though.

i dread that! i corner like miss daisy! glad youre ok and lucky nothing was coming round the other way! what speed were you doing?

Glad you're ok

wasn't going fast at all, I had already taken my hand off the revs and was slowing the bike down to stop at the junction to give way but as soon has I hit the back brake the bike just went under still cant understand why, I didnt even enter the bend at any speed, I know I should have used the front brake and not the back but still cant see that making me slide,

Braking in a bend in the rain?
No surprise you came off.
Remember that there is no back brake on a PCX, when you squeeze that left lever you get both brakes together with no control over the front/rear bias.
Also never use the front brake in a bend in the rain, you have even more chance of going down.
(I know about these things having had more crashes than I care to recall)

I've only come off 9 times if you include last weekend when I locked up the front wheel of a trail bike. All good experience and the scars make nice mementos! 2 more probably from the trail bike...

gn2 wrote:Braking in a bend in the rain?
No surprise you came off.
Remember that there is no back brake on a PCX, when you squeeze that left lever you get both brakes together with no control over the front/rear bias.
Also never use the front brake in a bend in the rain, you have even more chance of going down.
(I know about these things having had more crashes than I care to recall)

Thanks for the info, all I need now is some new fairing powerbyPCX seems to be out of stock and the seller on ebay only has a low feed back

Sorry to hear of your off. I guess you must be a new rider as braking on a bend especially in the wet is a nono but i guess you have learnt the hard way. Just put it down to lack of experience. The middle body piece took 3 months for my dealer to get but obviously it is down to colour. Good luck finding parts

Not Good!
Glad you came off relatively lightly in terms of injury, bike cane be fixed easily, bodies...............................

Reasons you came off could be a variety of circumstances in the wet, try to avoid braking in a bend wet or dry. It's possible there was a patch of oil there, maybe a piece of Tarmac has gone 'shiny', as in the tar showing and no gravel on it. If road has been recently resurfaced, then some types of new tarmac are not good for bikers in the wet. Caution is the watch word when riding in the wet to be honest.
Linked brakes......................GN2.................................I have no issues with the linked brakes personally, if they work anything like my deauville bike, then applying the rear brake lever will only activate one piston on the front brake. You are right in that you don't have a say in the braking bias, but applying the rear brake lever the main bias is still towards the back wheel, which is the same as my Deauville.

The Tarmac was shiny and I was on a new road

All in all I think I'd prefer to not have the linked brakes. There are times when I'd be happier knowing that I was just applying the rear brake

qed wrote:All in all I think I'd prefer to not have the linked brakes. There are times when I'd be happier knowing that I was just applying the rear brake

Me too although mine has linked brakes too

So long as you ride sensibly the linked brakes aren't a problem.

Hello, sorry my first post on here is answering in a thread when somebody came off, but my first question about the PCX would be related to it.

Some background info: I am coming from the big bikes, I had a Suzuki Bandit 600 and a BMW F800S so far but sold them (need cash for a house...). As the GF passed her CBT, I wanted to get a nice scooter for both of us, but I am a little confused about the comments on here - especially as the GF doesn't have much riding experience.

Of course I would never ever apply the brakes violently in a (wet) turn, however I can't count the many times I gave it a light, smooth and progressive squeeze in long corners such as one coming up to an A road junction close to home. I know its dangerous to say that to a novice rider, but as long as the tyre doesn't use all its grip cornering, you can use the remaining grip for braking provided you allow time for the weight to switch to the front and provided the surface got enough grip. To say in fact, I did some advanced rider training on a low grip surface doing exactly that: braking in corners!

However I can't understand why the so sudden loss of control other than through surface grip changing, unless the smaller wheels of the PCX do force a different braking behaviour from a 17 inch wheel of a motorbike. I am very worried about my GF just squeezing the brakes and given the PCX got no ABS loosing control. Do I need to brake differently with a scooter than on a motorcycle? Thanks, DJ

Hi and welcome.
The laws of physics are the same for scooters as for motorbikes.
What you can't do with the PCX is use the rear brake separately from the front.
It looks to me that the OP doesn't understand how to ride in the wet.

gn2 wrote:.
It looks to me that the OP doesn't understand how to ride in the wet.

I don't understand how to ride in the dry never mind the wet LOL

welcome to the forum djcat

You'll get there

gn2 wrote:So long as you ride sensibly the linked brakes aren't a problem.

I didn't say there were a problem. Just I'd prefer not to have them.

Sometimes the surface is so slippery that I don't want any front brake at all.

And how can you do a decent skiddy? Ive tried it, it doesn't work.