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Should I replace my battery, or just charge it?

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:31 am
by jcpeden
My scooter is typically used for an 8 mile round trip to and from work. This takes 15-20 minutes each day. Occasionally, I'll pop out on the bike but it's for shorter journies and I think the battery isn't getting properly charged as I've had to jump start it more than once already.

Is it possible the battery needs replacing (bike has done 12,000 miles and was built in 2011) or should I just pick up a smart charger?

Re: Should I replace my battery, or just charge it?

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:55 am
by Mel46
Is that the original battery?? Time to replace it if it is. Also, you do need a Battery Tender because you aren't charging the battery enough when riding. If you leave the leads that come with the Battery Tender attached to the battery, you can top off your battery when you get home each day. I think I read somewhere that each time a battery is used to start a vehicle it takes 10 miles of riding to charge it back to what it was before it was used for starting. Keep in mind that your battery is used for all of your lights and electronics (including your dash), even when you are sitting at a light, where the engine is idling and not charging. If you use the start-stop on it you will suck more current out of it because it has to start the bike a few times. That does a number on the battery.

Re: Should I replace my battery, or just charge it?

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:50 pm
by honkerman
Mel46 wrote:Is that the original battery?? Time to replace it if it is. Also, you do need a Battery Tender because you aren't charging the battery enough when riding. If you leave the leads that come with the Battery Tender attached to the battery, you can top off your battery when you get home each day. I think I read somewhere that each time a battery is used to start a vehicle it takes 10 miles of riding to charge it back to what it was before it was used for starting. Keep in mind that your battery is used for all of your lights and electronics (including your dash), even when you are sitting at a light, where the engine is idling and not charging. If you use the start-stop on it you will suck more current out of it because it has to start the bike a few times. That does a number on the battery.
Indeed. And if you're using the original battery on a 5-6 year old scooter, that's pretty durn good.

What you heard is pretty accurate Mel.

Re: Should I replace my battery, or just charge it?

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 8:33 am
by jcpeden
Ok, point taken!

I'll pick up a smart charger this weekend.

I'll also replace the battery. Any advantage to a Yuasa battery (£75) vs. an unbranded one (£20)?

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Apparently they're very good!

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/ ... tm?t=97640

Re: Should I replace my battery, or just charge it?

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 8:43 am
by Mel46
Yeas has a name for itself as a dependable battery. The last time I purchased an unbranded battery I ended up replacing it a year later. I replaced it with a Yuasa and it has been running strong since then.

Re: Should I replace my battery, or just charge it?

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:48 am
by jcpeden
Thanks Mel,

Smart charger is on the way. Now for a new battery...

Re: Should I replace my battery, or just charge it?

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:41 am
by jcpeden
Just a quick update, I picked up a smart charger but the battery is definitely screwed. I connected it up (came with a fused set of terminals that I can just leave connected, so no need to remove the battery cover after installation) and the charger reported the battery as being fully charged.

I left it installed overnight, ran the bike the next day and the battery was totally flat the following morning. Enough to prime the fuel pump but no more than that.

I'm ordering a new battery now...hopefully that solves the problem!

Re: Should I replace my battery, or just charge it?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:33 pm
by bobontour
Hi, Just wondering if the new battery worked, as I have had a couple of times not starting.
But also I only go 10 miles a day so I'm on the verge of not charging up the battery while riding it.
So very interested if your sorted now. :roll:

Re: Should I replace my battery, or just charge it?

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 3:46 am
by Robbie
I don't think jcpeden is using his scooter at the moment.

http://www.hondapcx.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5978

Re: Should I replace my battery, or just charge it?

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 5:14 am
by iceman
Battery of lack of charging on the bike, but so far it seems to come down to the battery when people charge it off bike and it fails in use.

Re: Should I replace my battery, or just charge it?

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 9:26 am
by the2dwarf
jcpeden wrote:My scooter is typically used for an 8 mile round trip to and from work. This takes 15-20 minutes each day. Occasionally, I'll pop out on the bike but it's for shorter journies and I think the battery isn't getting properly charged as I've had to jump start it more than once already.

Is it possible the battery needs replacing (bike has done 12,000 miles and was built in 2011) or should I just pick up a smart charger?
Just replaced mine with a gel type from ebay. Considering the Scooter was built in 2010 the battery was already 6 years old and pretty tired...