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Honda pcx 125 motor oil question
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:54 pm
by Mike888
Hey guys, i would like to know if this specific motor oil will work for my 2011 honda pcx125. Thanks
Castrol 06119 Actevo 10W-30 Part Synthetic 4T Motorcycle Oil - 1 Quart
Re: Honda pcx 125 motor oil question
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:57 pm
by Jge64
Will work fine......
Re: Honda pcx 125 motor oil question
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 4:40 pm
by honkerman
Mike888 wrote:Hey guys, i would like to know if this specific motor oil will work for my 2011 honda pcx125. Thanks
Castrol 06119 Actevo 10W-30 Part Synthetic 4T Motorcycle Oil - 1 Quart
No reason it wouldn't. It fits the specs in the manual. I've been using MOTUL, but I push my scoot pretty hard.
Re: Honda pcx 125 motor oil question
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:09 pm
by Mike888
hey i currently can not afford to get a valve check. Do you think i can ride around 1500 miles before doing the valve change, coolant change and brake fluid change. I heard people say that if your brake fluid is not dark you don't need to change it. Im kinda confused. Thanks.
Re: Honda pcx 125 motor oil question
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:43 pm
by honkerman
Mike888 wrote:hey i currently can not afford to get a valve check. Do you think i can ride around 1500 miles before doing the valve change, coolant change and brake fluid change. I heard people say that if your brake fluid is not dark you don't need to change it. Im kinda confused. Thanks.
Brake fluid should be changed at least bi-annually, though I've had professional mechanics with many years of experience tell me annually is best. Color of brake fluid is a good indication of age/deterioration. Very dark fluid should be changed as it is probably several years old or has somehow had contaminants introduced to it, and the process is insanely simple (see my brake fluid change video in the how-to section).
The valve clearance check can probably wait til the odometer ticks over 6,000 miles, so long as the machine in running right. I'm not sure why you would change the coolant at 1500 miles on a scooter that's less than two years old. Your oil should definitely be changed after the machine's first 600 miles and you should check and clean the oil strainer. That's one I definitely would not let go. After that oil changes are at 2500 mile intervals as per your owner's manual.
You really should be referring to the owner's manual on all this stuff. It has a handy little maintenance schedule chart. You should find the charts on pages 89 and 90.
Re: Honda pcx 125 motor oil question
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:02 pm
by honkerman
Sorry, my bad, I thought I saw your model year as 2015.
If the brake fluid is a light yellow color and the system has good pressure, changing the fluid can wait. If the brakes feel mushy, the fluid should be replaced. If they feel firm and responsive, you should be fine. Remember though that regular brake fluid replacement every year or two will prolong the life of the hydraulic brake system.
As for the coolant, it's likely fine. It's in a closed system. The only reason a flush and fill was ever suggested was due to the age of the scoot and how long it had been sitting. It wouldn't be a bad idea, but I doubt it's a make or break issue.
The reason I recommended checking the valves originally is simply due to how long the bike sat. If you run it and it seems fine, it can probably wait; however, there's a good chance the scoot sat with one of the valves open while it was waiting for you to come along and rescue it, which could have affected the associated valve spring. It's probably just fine, but again, these were recommendations, not ultimatums. If it seems to run fine, it might be ok to wait. Without seeing the bike myself, I can't say for certain.
Re: Honda pcx 125 motor oil question
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:59 pm
by you you
honkerman wrote:Sorry, my bad, I thought I saw your model year as 2015.
If the brake fluid is a light yellow color and the system has good pressure, changing the fluid can wait. If the brakes feel mushy, the fluid should be replaced. If they feel firm and responsive, you should be fine. Remember though that regular brake fluid replacement every year or two will prolong the life of the hydraulic brake system.
As for the coolant, it's likely fine. It's in a closed system. The only reason a flush and fill was ever suggested was due to the age of the scoot and how long it had been sitting. It wouldn't be a bad idea, but I doubt it's a make or break issue.
The reason I recommended checking the valves originally is simply due to how long the bike sat. If you run it and it seems fine, it can probably wait; however, there's a good chance the scoot sat with one of the valves open while it was waiting for you to come along and rescue it, which could have affected the associated valve spring. It's probably just fine, but again, these were recommendations, not ultimatums. If it seems to run fine, it might be ok to wait. Without seeing the bike myself, I can't say for certain.
Seems sensible.
Change the oil and ride it
Re: Honda pcx 125 motor oil question
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:32 pm
by Mike888
Can I use the oil mentioned above in my transmission
Re: Honda pcx 125 motor oil question
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:57 pm
by honkerman
Mike888 wrote:Can I use the oil mentioned above in my transmission
The manual specifies:
API spec SJ or higher
JASO T 903 standard:MB
Viscosity: SAE 10W-30
Same specs as the engine oil.
Re: Honda pcx 125 motor oil question
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:06 pm
by Mike888
But my oil says Jason ma-2, Api sl
Can I cause damage to tranny by overfilling. In my neighborhood there is slight hill so it's hard to make it flat
Re: Honda pcx 125 motor oil question
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:07 pm
by Mike888
Jaso ma-2.. Sorry it was a typo for Jason
Re: Honda pcx 125 motor oil question
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:07 pm
by Mike888
Also it's part synthetic
Re: Honda pcx 125 motor oil question
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:31 pm
by honkerman
I can only tell you what the specs say, and my manual is for a 2013 PCX 150. I prefer to use what the manual recommends rather than something else. If it were me, I'd return it and get the recommended oil.
Part synth is fine though.
If you follow the directions in the owner's manual and service manual, you should be fine. Basically, the oil should come just up to the rim of the fill hole. so long as the surface you're working on is reasonably flat, you should be fine. If there's a slight grade, just put the scoot facing uphill and stick it on its center stand. If you're dealing with a steep grade, then you really need to find a flat surface.
Re: Honda pcx 125 motor oil question
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:29 pm
by Mike888
What should I do. I added the new oil in both engine and transmission. What are the damages I might have caused. In so stressed now
Re: Honda pcx 125 motor oil question
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 1:25 am
by you you
Mike888 wrote:What should I do. I added the new oil in both engine and transmission. What are the damages I might have caused. In so stressed now
It'll be perfectly fine.
Re: Honda pcx 125 motor oil question
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 1:45 am
by gn2
The oil you have used is to the correct specification, this explains why:
http://www.oilspecifications.org/api_eolcs.php
Re: Honda pcx 125 motor oil question
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 9:08 am
by Mike888
But it says to use mb but my oil says ma-2. Can I use both in my transmission and engine
Re: Honda pcx 125 motor oil question
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 9:45 am
by gn2
Yes.
MA or MB makes no odds because it doesn't have wet clutch.
Re: Honda pcx 125 motor oil question
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:19 am
by honkerman
gn2 wrote:Yes.
MA or MB makes no odds because it doesn't have wet clutch.
That's what it was. Brain is all full from finishing second term and I couldn't shake that particular nut out of the tree.
Re: Honda pcx 125 motor oil question
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 4:03 pm
by you you
It'll be perfectly fine