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Saeng Microswirl --- Anybody use it?

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:53 am
by Dustoff66
I recently had to go back to my Ermax +25 screen after a bolt hole broke on my tall Givi. The wind noise and buffeting is really bad even in town at 35mph. Has anyone used the Saeng edging and if so, what do you think about it? At $14.90 a foot I'd love to see some reviews before I spend that much. Thanks!

Re: Saeng Microswirl --- Anybody use it?

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:47 am
by Mel46
I read some good reviews on a different forum. I had really thought about doing that to my bike as well but I have the tall windshields on both bikes right now. Our mid height Givi is stored away, but if I had to reinstall it I would love to try it. I believe that you have to purchase a minimum of 3 feet of that microswirl. If you have some left let me know. I may purchase the remainder from you to try on mine, if you wanted to get rid of it.

Re: Saeng Microswirl --- Anybody use it?

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 10:24 am
by Richard

Re: Saeng Microswirl --- Anybody use it?

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 10:59 am
by Dustoff66
mel46 ---- Thanks, as always, for your insight. I'll certainly contact you with any extra length I may have. Just awhile ago I got a formerly used open face helmet out of the attic -- it has a flip down full face shield -- I used it before I got cute and got one with the shield that just flips down over the eyes with a little lever. Anyway, I took a short ride and the buffeting/noise is a whole lot less even at 58mph. I may go with cheapo earplugs and that helmet for awhile just to see if I'm comfortable. But if I order the Saeng stuff I'll keep you posted. Thanks again from a busted up old geezer!

Re: Saeng Microswirl --- Anybody use it?

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:39 pm
by jblye
Here's one of my former postings re a tall windscreen and the Saeng Microswirl edging:

Here are the upgrades to my 2015 PCX150 that have made the scooter a much more enjoyable / practical ride:

http://johnnysstuffblog.blogspot.com/20 ... rades.html

Givi D1130ST TALL Windscreen (Purchased from Tour and Ride....Givi's USA online store)......This tall windscreen works fairly well as is,
but it still has some wind noise and helmet buffeting, so I tried a couple of upgrades. At first, I installed a 10 inch Universal Laminar Lip.
That provided some improvement.....but mostly in the center 10 inches of the screen....and the fit to my D1130ST was not ideal, so I sent
the Lip back for a refund. Then I purchased 3 feet of Saeng's Micro Swirl edging (see pics) for about $45. That made a significant improvement,
reducing wind noise and buffeting from the top AND the sides of the screen. Without the edging, the air stream hits the center of my helmet
visor and about 2 inches from the sides of my helmet. With the edging, the air stream barely hits the top of my helmet and is about 4 or 5
inches away from the sides of my helmet. Much quieter and smoother airflow behind the screen ! NOTE: I DON'T THINK THAT THIS EDGING
WOULD BE VERY EFFECTIVE FOR LOWER LEVEL WINDSCREENS. With the D1130ST windscreen, I'm JUST looking over the top of the screen,
so the effect of the edging is maximized. For reference, I'm 5 feet - 10 inches tall....but long waisted. A rider of similar height who is not long
waisted should get an even better improvement than I did.

Hope this helps
Johnny

Re: Saeng Microswirl --- Anybody use it?

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:40 pm
by Dustoff66
Thanks, jblye! The Ermax isn't nearly as tall as the tall Givi as you know, so maybe the Saeng won't be a good buy. I went back out this afternoon with earplugs. Vive la différence! So quiet, could barely hear the engine but the horns and sirens were fine.
That makes 4 outings in the 2 days I've been back on the road since my injuries. The BW ( Beautiful Wife ) says I'm back with my old girlfriend and could I please find time to mow the grass.

Re: Saeng Microswirl --- Anybody use it?

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:18 pm
by ScooterAddict
I've been reading these posts about buffeting and what to do. I read about Saeng micro edging and I also went to their site. Then today I had this big "I can't believe it!" I bought a new tool box (tamale wagon size) and quickly transferred everything from the old box. A couple of weeks later I was sorting through it getting rid of stuff I was saving. (I'm a packrat) Today I just realized I threw out about 30" of Saeng edging. When I picked it up while sorting, I said to myself "what the hell am I saving this for?" Not knowing what it was. I had taken this off a BMW I had about 15yrs ago. Moral of the story, don't throw anything out, you may need it before you die!!

Re: Saeng Microswirl --- Anybody use it?

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:48 pm
by WhiteNoise
Oh - My - Gosh!
Why do things like that happen? And to each one of us, Sooner or Later?
After holding onto items for "x" amount of time, I too have tossed stuff out only to find I need it
a week later, and Sometimes sooner! :x
It's then you start to thinking, "I never do that, why did I?" Yer Face gets twisted. "Why? that's Not me!"
I'm gonna say it....... "Sucks, don't it?"

(Hours go by, I say to me, "Are ya sure it's not in the garbage still? Go look! It might be out there! Like an arse, I go look. Self inflicted Disappointment.) :(

Sorry ScooterAddict