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I am about ready to order a set of City Grips for my 2013 PCX, question i have is there are a few differnt types, not sure exactly what i need, some are r, s and maybe another letter, what do i need, and who has about the best prices at the moment

Chet

You need 100/90-14 for the rear and 90/90-14 for the front.
There is only one type of CityGrip in these correct sizes.
The full descriptions from the Michelin website are:

Front 90/90 - 14 M/C 46P F TL

Rear 100/90 - 14 M/C 57P REINF R TL

90 or 100 = the width
/90 = the aspect ratio of the tyre profile, it is the height expressed as a percentage of the width
14 = the wheel diameter
M/C = this is a motorcycle tyre
46 = the load index, this means the tyre can carry a load of 375lbs
57 = 507lbs
P = the speed rating, maximum speed for this tyre is 93mph
REINF = the tyre is reinforced in order to carry a higher weight
F = Front, this means the tyre can only to be used as a front tyre
R = Rear, this means the tyre can only be used as a rear tyre
TL = Tubeless tyre, should not be used with inner tubes

Load and speed rating chart: http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/motorcycle/ ... ng-symbols

Oh no!! My red rocket goes f.a.s.t... maybe it will start going down a hill and reach that magic 93 mph. Then what?! Would my red flash have to slow down to below that speed or would it be ok if it zoooommms by!?
Lucky mine isn't white. I hear they are even faster...

Mel46 wrote:Oh no!! My red rocket goes f.a.s.t... maybe it will start going down a hill and reach that magic 93 mph. Then what?! Would my red flash have to slow down to below that speed or would it be ok if it zoooommms by!?
Lucky mine isn't white. I hear they are even faster...

I am deeply saddened to say that my buddy's red OWL is slightly faster than my white PCX.
It came from the country, so I'm thinking it must've got Homie's hard run-in procedure.

I replaced the stock Duros on my HD200 with Pirelli Diablos. Oh yeah, they are worth the money it just invites you to flick the bike side to side and corner at however lean angle you dare. I have not ridden the city grips to compare. The stock Duros were a pile of rocks looking back.

gn2 wrote:You need 100/90-14 for the rear and 90/90-14 for the front.
There is only one type of CityGrip in these correct sizes.
The full descriptions from the Michelin website are:

Front 90/90 - 14 M/C 46P F TL

Rear 100/90 - 14 M/C 57P REINF R TL

90 or 100 = the width
/90 = the aspect ratio of the tyre profile, it is the height expressed as a percentage of the width
14 = the wheel diameter
M/C = this is a motorcycle tyre
46 = the load index, this means the tyre can carry a load of 375lbs
57 = 507lbs
P = the speed rating, maximum speed for this tyre is 93mph
REINF = the tyre is reinforced in order to carry a higher weight
F = Front, this means the tyre can only to be used as a front tyre
R = Rear, this means the tyre can only be used as a rear tyre
TL = Tubeless tyre, should not be used with inner tubes

Load and speed rating chart: http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/motorcycle/ ... ng-symbols

i think M/C is Medium Compound
there is m/c (medium compound) and s/c (soft compound)

anyway, im planning to change my tire too
im thinking between city grip or diablo scooter

I have only just had Michelin City Grips installed on my PCX and wow! They make such a difference and I wish I had changed from the stocks to MCG straight away. I cannot recommend them enough!

What is the brand name of the stock?

RichyP is in the UK so the original tyres would have been IRC

Veteran Kymco riders in the Philippines, who experience a couple dozen typhoons each year - recommended that I replace my stock Kendas with City Grips if I was planning on commuting in the rain.
At 400 miles I did.
Nearly 16,000 now --- nothing exciting to report.
Which is not a bad thing.

2Sox

Both of my PCX 150s have Michelin City Grips. My scooter before them was a Burgman 400. When I purchased that bike I immediately ordered MCG tires for front and back. I did not regret that decision. I am sure the next owner of it enjoyed them as well.

As I understand it the new PCX comes with them now. Smart decision, Honda. :-)

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Good luck with your pickin's. I cheer for City Grips!!

Mel46 wrote:Both of my PCX 150s have Michelin City Grips. My scooter before them was a Burgman 400. When I purchased that bike I immediately ordered MCG tires for front and back. I did not regret that decision. I am sure the next owner of it enjoyed them as well.

As I understand it the new PCX comes with them now. Smart decision, Honda. :-)

OEM may not be the same as aftermarket though.

you you wrote:

Mel46 wrote:Both of my PCX 150s have Michelin City Grips. My scooter before them was a Burgman 400. When I purchased that bike I immediately ordered MCG tires for front and back. I did not regret that decision. I am sure the next owner of it enjoyed them as well.

As I understand it the new PCX comes with them now. Smart decision, Honda. :-)

OEM may not be the same as aftermarket though.

Sure they are....a Michelin on a new car is the same as on the shelf at Wal-Mart.
Vespa puts City Grips on most of their most expensive models...
Fish

im putting city grips on soon....I have the new radial dunlop scootsmarts now , and they have a LOUD WHINE I hate...

I put the City Grips on my bike last year, right after the 2013's stock tires had me sliding in the rain.

I noticed two changes with the City Grips:

(1) They actually made the ride feel softer. I've always known that tires could affect ride quality, traction, etc... But the degree to which they seemingly gave me new, more comfortable suspension was mind blowing.

(2) The grippier tires slowed my bike down. The claim was that the 2013s were faster than the 2015s, right? If the 2015s were the ones that first got the City Grips as stock.... then I can answer as to why the 2015s and newer top out at 63 instead of 65. The 2013s just had tires that were so slick (read: "crappy"), it made them faster.

Slowed the bike down?
As measured by speedo or gps?
Speedo indications are determined by the circumference of the tyre.
If the circumference increases the maximum indicated speed will drop but the scooter may not.

As measured by both speedo and butt dyno.

The original tire on that bike looked brand new when I only had 5,000 miles on it. Because there was no grip, those stock tires could have gone on for 25k or 30k miles!!! It felt faster because it was faster. I've seen others elsewhere mention the same thing, even when using GPS to measure.

People say that the 2013 and 2014 models had a different final drive than the 2015+ models. I'm just wondering if that's true... or is it all in the tires.

Nope, not just the tires. I have two 2013 models. Granted, they are red, not white (which is faster just because it is :-).

I changed my bikes over to MCGs and made sure the pressure in them was what was recommended by Honda. Then I scrubbed the sidewalls to make sure there wasn't any of the factory protection on them that would allow then to slip when cornering until it was worn off.

With everything as it should be, including the upgraded variator, rollers, etc., though the belts had around 3,500 miles on them, I tested the speed on my bikes. Both topped out at 75 mph GPS without hitting the limiter. Now they MAY have been able to go faster than that previously but I don't think they need to. Once it reached 75 mph it was subject to instability due to cross-winds, traffic, and just being light in weight. I also notice a shimmy in the front end that I attribute to the added spotlights on the front forks. If it could go faster than that, why would I want it to?

grndslm wrote:As measured by both speedo and butt dyno.

Neither of which provides a 100% accurate indication of true speed.