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I go to a lot of places that have no gas stations.

What is the best way of carrying extra gas on a 2014 Honda Forza 300?

What is the safest distance I can go before I am walking?

The MPG meter on the Forza is instantaneous? Or average? USA MPG? Canada MPG? I use kilometres per litre anyway.

How big is the actual fuel tank? Is it all useable?

I like to carry enough gas to get my destination and have enough to get back to the previous gas station.

Our provincial politicians are squabbling over a pipeline. Alberta wants to turn off our gas.

The 300 Forza fuel gauge is abysmal. It goes from ok to empty way before it needs to, so you have no idea of what you have left. The only reliable way to keep safe is to reset the trip every time you fill up.

Tank capacity is 2.5 imperial gallons, enough for 200 miles if you take your time.
The economy meter is very accurate, the fuel gauge..... completely useless.
You should be able to get a couple of fuel containers under the seat or stored on the tunnel/rack/throwover panniers.
If you Google "motorcycle fuel container" there's heaps of ideas from recycled two litre drink bottles to permanent fit auxiliary tanks.

Though I only have a PCX I have carried extra fuel three ways.

The first is in a small authorized fuel container in the tail box. It fits nicely. You can try various sizes to see which one will be the largest that you can carry.

The second way is at the back of the seat, using the front of the tail box as an anchor to keep it secure.

The last way is that I used a piece of packing Styrofoam as a backrest for me, which gave me something to lean back on when on long trips. I cut a section out of it the size of a small fuel container, and secured the container in place with tiedowns. Any of these should work for carrying extra fuel.

gn2 wrote:Tank capacity is 2.5 imperial gallons, enough for 200 miles if you take your time.
The economy meter is very accurate, the fuel gauge..... completely useless.
You should be able to get a couple of fuel containers under the seat or stored on the tunnel/rack/throwover panniers.
If you Google "motorcycle fuel container" there's heaps of ideas from recycled two litre drink bottles to permanent fit auxiliary tanks.

Under the seat..????????? Space is big enough,but is it safe..??? I Mean on my scoots it does get a bit warm in there.But under the seat is better to carry the weight.

dick the den wrote:

gn2 wrote:Tank capacity is 2.5 imperial gallons, enough for 200 miles if you take your time.
The economy meter is very accurate, the fuel gauge..... completely useless.
You should be able to get a couple of fuel containers under the seat or stored on the tunnel/rack/throwover panniers.
If you Google "motorcycle fuel container" there's heaps of ideas from recycled two litre drink bottles to permanent fit auxiliary tanks.

Under the seat..????????? Space is big enough,but is it safe..??? I Mean on my scoots it does get a bit warm in there.But under the seat is better to carry the weight.

Under the seat would be a bad place to carry gas for me on the Forza. The front part of the space has tools, gloves and other crap I need to reduce. The back space under there gets warm. I would be afraid of expansion spillage.

The top box would have my tent & sleeping bag. The back of the seat would have my backpack.

I want to investigate the tunnel to see if it is useable.

There are very few times I want extra gas. Maybe a few 1 litre containers around my tent??? I need to load everything up and see what room is left. Under the top box???

You could fit 1 litre in the front left lockable compartment

dick the den wrote:

gn2 wrote:Tank capacity is 2.5 imperial gallons, enough for 200 miles if you take your time.
The economy meter is very accurate, the fuel gauge..... completely useless.
You should be able to get a couple of fuel containers under the seat or stored on the tunnel/rack/throwover panniers.
If you Google "motorcycle fuel container" there's heaps of ideas from recycled two litre drink bottles to permanent fit auxiliary tanks.

Under the seat..????????? Space is big enough,but is it safe..??? I Mean on my scoots it does get a bit warm in there.But under the seat is better to carry the weight.

I'm guessing it would be at least as safe as a regular motorcycle fuel tank perched on top of the engine.

gn2 wrote:

dick the den wrote:

gn2 wrote:Tank capacity is 2.5 imperial gallons, enough for 200 miles if you take your time.
The economy meter is very accurate, the fuel gauge..... completely useless.
You should be able to get a couple of fuel containers under the seat or stored on the tunnel/rack/throwover panniers.
If you Google "motorcycle fuel container" there's heaps of ideas from recycled two litre drink bottles to permanent fit auxiliary tanks.

Under the seat..????????? Space is big enough,but is it safe..??? I Mean on my scoots it does get a bit warm in there.But under the seat is better to carry the weight.

I'm guessing it would be at least as safe as a regular motorcycle fuel tank perched on top of the engine.

How flippant. Have you any idea how dangerous a bit warm petrol is

I think I'll get some petrol and put it in an old electric kettle and see if it just boils or bursts into flames.

I went riding today to Princeton. I investigated the left lockable cubby hole. You could fill a 1 litre oil bottle and put it in there. It is too small an amount to even bother with. A 5 litre container on the tunnel would be more practical. The back seat is doable but I prefer the tunnel because I would be constantly looking at the back seat to see if it is still there. There are very few times I would ever need extra fuel. More of an academic exercise.

I've read on other forums where members use:
Rotopax
1) http://rotopax.com/
Or...
MSR fuel bottles
2) https://youtu.be/oXKqpvAtVd4

Both a bit costly.
Ya better "Shop Around"

I am curious. I especially like the idea of the MSR fuel bottles. It looks like you could put them securely in some out of the way place on the bike.
Now the big question:
How and where would you attach either of them to a PCX? There isn't a lot of extra room on the outside of one, and could you trust either enough that you would put it under the seat?

I'd probably trust the MSRs in the under seat as long as they were fastened down. They're designed for backpacks after all.

I love RotoPax - but those I want for my Jeep, and they are pricy and awkward for a scoot. Probably better for ADV bikes, IMO.

Mel46 wrote:I am curious. I especially like the idea of the MSR fuel bottles. It looks like you could put them securely in some out of the way place on the bike.
Now the big question:
How and where would you attach either of them to a PCX? There isn't a lot of extra room on the outside of one, and could you trust either enough that you would put it under the seat?

I have been carrying these fuel bottles under my seat for the past 3 years. Work well, have not been blown up yet.

There ya go from experience.
Love the grippy beer holders, that's a cool idea. But, but.....where's the beer?

MikeP wrote:

Mel46 wrote:I am curious. I especially like the idea of the MSR fuel bottles. It looks like you could put them securely in some out of the way place on the bike.
Now the big question:
How and where would you attach either of them to a PCX? There isn't a lot of extra room on the outside of one, and could you trust either enough that you would put it under the seat?

I have been carrying these fuel bottles under my seat for the past 3 years. Work well, have not been blown up yet.

Hopefully not the same gas for 3 years as it would be useless.

Where do you go that you need 2 extra litres? Say 50 km more? Or is it in case you forget to fuel up?

Petrol. It's petrol.

Gas is a state of matter.

davenowherejones wrote:

MikeP wrote:

Mel46 wrote:I am curious. I especially like the idea of the MSR fuel bottles. It looks like you could put them securely in some out of the way place on the bike.
Now the big question:
How and where would you attach either of them to a PCX? There isn't a lot of extra room on the outside of one, and could you trust either enough that you would put it under the seat?

I have been carrying these fuel bottles under my seat for the past 3 years. Work well, have not been blown up yet.

Hopefully not the same gas for 3 years as it would be useless.

Where do you go that you need 2 extra litres? Say 50 km more? Or is it in case you forget to fuel up?

I use the gas, petrol, or dinosaur juice, every 2 months or so.
I like to do day trips to remote areas like Tofino, Port Renfrew, or Gold River for example. Sometimes it can be tough finding a fuel stop so this gives me an extra 75km or so range.

Mister Paul wrote:Petrol. It's petrol.

Gas is a state of matter.

Gas is an abbreviation of gasoline, needs to be easy for them, petrol although only six letters is still is one syllable too many.